From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 14:23:37 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Mailing list liability (fwd)
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"Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com> writes:
> On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Jim Choate wrote:
>
> > It is exactly editorial control because it prevents, a priori, submissions
> > Vulis under that account. He is FORCED to resort to other means. That is
> > what the courts will see, it is what the jury will see, and it is what will
> > eventualy sink the list, and place its operator under financial burden for
> > years.
>
> You really need to get your facts straight.  Vulis is _not_ prevented from
> posting under his name to cpunks.  He has in fact made several posts since
> he was removed from the list.

The fact remains that John Gilmore has "punished" me for speech that he didn't
like by unsubscribing me from both cypherpunks and coderpunks mailing lists and
by instructing majordomo to "play dead" in response to any requests from me.
That's rude; that's sneaky; that's censorship; that's John's right.

I am not a lawyer, but I hope that if and when someone gets sued over something
posted to this mailing list, John "deep pockets" Gilmore is named a codefendant
and is unable to convince anyone of his common carrier status.

(I remind the lawsuit-happy audience that John Gilmore was the fifth employee
of Sun Micro and was given some equity in the company, which after the IPO
became worth millions of dollars.)

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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