From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
To: Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-11-18 01:05:54 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:05:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 17:05:54 -0800 (PST)
To: Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org>
Subject: Re: Does John Gilmore...
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On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Dave Hayes wrote:
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:16:14 -0800
> From: Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org>
> To: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
> Cc: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org, cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Does John Gilmore...
>
> > The free market will ever be the only real path to free speech, because,
> > in essence, it is free speech.
> > Free speech does not, however, require that all speech be universally
> > broadcast to each and every citizen on the planet free of charge. That's
> > "subsidized speech."
>
> Given that the free market rule is "he who has the money makes the
> rules", please explain how anything less than "subsidized speech" (as
> you put it) is anything close to free speech?
>
> [For those who's assumptions rule their perception: I am *not* arguing
> that all speech should be subsidized. I am merely pointing out that
> the organization that is spending the money to broadcast is
> controlling the speech, hence it is *not* free speech in terms of
> freedom or cost.]
Again, you confuse free speech with free broadcast.
> ------
> Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org
> Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet
>
> If you want to get rid of somebody,
> just tell them something for their own good.
>
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