1996-11-14 - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News

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From: Rich Graves <rcgraves@ix.netcom.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Message ID: <328A7AEB.4C6D@ix.netcom.com>
Reply To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.961113061359.725B-100000@well.com>
UTC Datetime: 1996-11-14 01:44:12 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:44:12 -0800 (PST)

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From: Rich Graves <rcgraves@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:44:12 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News
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Declan McCullagh wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Bill Frantz wrote:
> > There is a serious error here.  Gilmore did nothing to prevent Vulis 
> > from posting to the list.  He only prevented Vulis from receiving 
> > the list under his own name.  And, the as hominem attacks continue.[...]
> The point I was trying to make at the end and that I may not have done
> very successfully is that it would be very difficult to prevent Vulis 
> from *posting* to the list under his name; he then could do it through
> remailers. And blocking remailers is unacceptable. So how does one 
> kick someone else out of a forum where anonymous speech is allowed?

Simple. Filter by content without admitting that you are doing so. Libel 
people. Suppress discussion.

In short, do precisely the opposite of what Gilmore has done.

I had been assuming, incorrectly, that the fight-censorship list was 
still down because of the hard drive crash on vorlon. As a matter of 
fact, I see that volume 2, issue 4 of the fight-censorship digest 
contains a message from me, though without credit.

If you have a problem with the below, please discuss the matter 
publicly, as Gilmore has discussed Vulis publicly.

|>>>> subscribe fight-censorship
|Your request to Majordomo@vorlon.mit.edu:
|
|        subscribe fight-censorship Richard Charles Graves 
|<llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
|
|has been forwarded to the owner of the "fight-censorship" list for 
|approval.

-rich





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