From: Dave Kinchlea <security@kinch.ark.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:14:36 -0800 (PST)
To: aga <aga@dhp.com>
Subject: Re: [REBUTTAL] Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News
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So, you send all of your snail mail on post cards do you? No
sealed envelopes at all? Afterall you have nothing to hide, right?

Of course not, privacy isn't about being a criminal, its about being
private. It is not akin to anonymity, *perhaps* those who work
anonymously have `something to hide' (still doesn't necessarily make
them a criminal, however), I'll let someone else field that as I feel
that anonymity is rarely a good thing. 

Privacy, on the other hand, simply means that not everything I do is any
of your business and I would just as soon you not be tempted to even
bother trying to find out. 

Of course, if all of your personal mail (including financial statements
etc) is sent on post cards, then (while I think you would be crazy) I
will at least admit you are consistent. Else, I think you need to look
hard at the logic you are using.

cheers


On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, aga wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Sean Roach wrote:
> 
> > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:46:08 -0500
> > From: Sean Roach <roach_s@alph.swosu.edu>
> > To: aga <aga@dhp.com>, cypherpunks@toad.com
> > Subject: Re: [REBUTTAL] Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News 
> > 
> > >On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mark M. wrote:
> > 
> > >> Mark
> > >> - -- 
> > >> finger -l for PGP key
> > >> PGP encrypted mail prefered.
> > 
> > To which, at 08:42 AM 11/14/96 -0500, aga wrote:
> > 
> > >Why?  Are you a criminal?
> > >What are you hiding behind your PGP?
> > 
> > Okay, I'll bite.  Where is it said that a person who wants h[is,er] privacy
> > is a criminal?  Charlie McCarthy might have said that.
> > 
> 
> It just "looks" that way on the net.  I do live-fucking, newsgroup
> flooding, mailbombing, vote-tampering and defamation all legally,
> and OPENLY on the InterNet.
> 
> The more you PGP, the worse you look.  Nobody reads your e-mail,
> so stop being so paranoid.
> 
> -aga
>