From: “James A. Tunnicliffe” <Tunny@inference.com>
To: “‘Hal Finney’” <hal@rain.org>
Message Hash: fcd1da42b5c47321bd5770126f07a0367f584df87e41a8f9e01ee073d206e757
Message ID: <c=US%a=%p=Inference%l=LANDRU-961101154011Z-9245@landru.novato.inference2.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-11-01 15:41:03 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 07:41:03 -0800 (PST)
From: "James A. Tunnicliffe" <Tunny@inference.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 07:41:03 -0800 (PST)
To: "'Hal Finney'" <hal@rain.org>
Subject: RE: Discrete logs 1
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Inference%l=LANDRU-961101154011Z-9245@landru.novato.inference2.com>
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[...Interesting discussion of logarithms deleted...]
The discrete logs used in crypto have very different mathematical
properties than regular logarithms, but I thought this bit of history
would spark some memories in old-timers and give a new perspective for
younger people.
Hal
As an apparent old-timer (calculators weren't common until my college days,
which puts me a couple of years before you, I guess) I enjoyed the
retrospective, and I even recall the joke that goes with the punchline you
quoted. It's amazing to realize that only a few years ago, we were
calculating orbital trajectories using logarithms by lining up marks on
little sticks of wood! I have to admit, though, that I was a little
disappointed after your opening paragraph, because what I was really hoping
to hear was a straightforward explanation of discrete logs, which, as you
say, are entirely different. A simple layman's explanation of what they
are and how they're useful in crypto would be nice, especially since PGP is
moving toward this (just when I was beginning to get a handle on RSA!).
Now that I have an interest in all this, I wish Rich Schroeppel still
worked here (he worked at Inference when I started here in '88, and has
since done a lot of pioneering work on discrete logs). Me, I'm still
trying to figure out what sort of seed is best to plant in a Galois
field...
Tunny
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