From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:24:03 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: The LIST
In-Reply-To: <32BFD210.146C@sk.sympatico.ca>
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Carl Johnson <toto@sk.sympatico.ca> writes:

> Ross Wright wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Dr., this latest tripe that has spewed forth from Tim's keyboard
> > reeks of bigotry.  And all this time I felt you may have been too
> > hard on him.  This latest rant of his has made me reconsider your
> > rough treatment of Mr. May.  I kinda think he deserves a slapping
> > right now.
>
>   Supporting Dr. DV K, are we?

Uh-oh - Ross, good buddy, we've been outed.

>   OK, pal, now your on the LIST, too.

Do you mean Timmy May's "don't hire" list?

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]Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:00:23 -0800
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]From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>
]Subject: Vulis now on the "Don't Hire" list
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]At 5:12 PM -0500 11/7/96, Alec wrote:
]
]>:This opens up the potential, for example, for Tim May to sue the operator of
]>:the Cypherpunks mailing list now for posts from users (even anonymous ones)
]>:which defame or otherwise liable his character, reputation, or ability to
]>:pursue income in his chosen field.
]>
]>PLEASE, let's not drag poor Tim into this. Hasn't he suffered enough?!
]>This does not follow even from the tortured logic above.
]
]And, indeed, it is not likely to be who suffers in the job market as a
]result of Dr. Vulis' rants and raves and generally insane postings; my
]situation is secure, but I understand that Vulis has joined L. Dettweiler
]on the "List of Unemployables" passed around Silicon Valley.
]
]I strongly doubt many computer companies in the Silicon Valley will be
]willing to hire him or his consulting service as his antics have received
]publicity.
]
]He may have his "NetScum" list and Web page, but it's his name on the list
]of folks not to hire.
]
]--Tim May
]
]"The government announcement is disastrous," said Jim Bidzos,.."We warned IBM
]that the National Security Agency would try to twist their technology."
][NYT, 1996-10-02]
]We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed.
]---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
]Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
]tcmay@got.net  408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
]W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
]Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments.
]"National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
]
]
]
]

I wonder if companies other than John Gilmore's "Cygnus Support" honors Timmy
May's list of unemployables. Of course, the way to get hired by Cygnus is to
give a blow job to John Gilmore while wearing a red ribbon on your scrotum.

By the way, the Net.Scum site that Timmy whines about is currently up at:

 http://www.fileita.it/webitalia/netscum

 http://www.lrcser.it/netscum

Check it out - several prominent "cypher punks" are described.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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