1996-12-04 - Re: new mailing list & ITAR

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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-12-04 19:26:00 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:26:00 -0800 (PST)

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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:26:00 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: new mailing list & ITAR
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"Michael C Taylor (CSD)" <mctaylor@olympus.mta.ca> writes:

> On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> > Meta-question: if someone posts strong crypto source code to the
> > moderated mailing list, can the moderator(s) be prosecuted under ITAR?
> The moderator would not prosecuted if the moderator & host machine wasn't 
> located in USA and not a USA citizen and if the post was not from USA. 
> The poster may be a target if located inside USA or a USA citizen. The 
> moderator might be prosecuted if the post originated inside USA or went 
> through USA to be exported outside USA & Canada.

Years ago I was participating in a moderated cryptography mailing list
hosted in Japan. I'm sorry I don't recall the name of our gracious
moderated from Tohoku U. Eventually he had no time for it and let it die.
Anyway I recall posting Gilmore's DES code to that list. How ironic.

Anyway, it looks like almost every packet these days goes via mae-west and/or


Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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