From: aga <aga@dhp.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:32:23 -0800 (PST)
To: freedom-knights@jetcafe.org
Subject: Jack D. Hidary & Arsen
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Does this "Arsen" still work for Jack D. Hidary
and that EarthWeb LLC?

On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

> > Just ignore them - Vulis is on the rag again.  Someone please buy Vulis a
> > box of anal tampons so he can calm down.
> 
> This reminds me how someone posted an anonymous message to this list calling
> Matt Blaze a "homosexual Jew" and Tim Scanlon (another lying Tim) immediately
> announced that I must be its author. He lied, of course, being a "cypher punk".
> 
> Anyway, seeing that Arsen posted the above obscenities during duty hours, I
> figured I'll post another tutorial on tracking down information on the 'net.
> 
> Arsen vainly insisted on listing his name in InterNIC's database as RA1215
> (unusual for someone supposedly interested in privacy). Arsen listed a phone
> number (+1 718 786 4227) which is apparently at his parents' residence (48-21
> 40th St, Apt 2B, Calvary, NY 11104-4111) and a fax number (+1 212 725 6559).
> 
> The fax number is in Manhattan area code. A good conjecture is that it belongs
> to some sort of business, and that the business's main number ends with a 0.
> 
> Indeed, calling +1 212 725 6550 (Arsen's listed fax number, 9 replaced by a 0)
> and talking to a nice young lady reveals that this phone number belongs to the
> Web designer EarthWeb, LLC; that they're at 3 Park Ave, 38th floor, New York,
> NY 10016; that the partnership's principals are:
> * Jack D. Hidary, president and CEO, <jack@earthweb.com>
> * Murray Hidary, senior vice president for operations, <murray@earthweb.com>
> * Nova Spivack, senior vice president for marketing, <nova@earthweb.com>
> and that Arsen is their associate network administrator.
> 
> That's how much one can learn just from the fax number in one's InterNIC entry.
> 
> For the logorrhetics' reading pleasure, I'll quote some of Arsen's earlier
> writings on the "cypher punks" mailing list:
> 
> ]Actually, unlike you, I do feel sorry for you, for you truly have no life
> ]and have nothing better to do than to start flame wars and such.  Do
> ]yourself a favor, get a real life.  Go get off your fat ass and do
> ]something with yourself other than masturbating.
> ...
> ]You wouldn't know what a life is if one came up to you and bit you on your
> ]ass. Oh tell us oh great one, and what is it that you know?  But spare us
> ]the flames and hate.  We already know that you are an asshole, of that
> ]there is little doubt.  What is at doubt is your degree, or is it a
> ]pedigree?  Shower us with your knowledge if you have any, for it is
> ]apparent that dazzling us with your bullshit isn't working.
> ...
> ]And what by your definition is your level of life if all your output
> ]seems to be nothing more than flames and flame bait?  How much of a loser
> ]are you to resort to anonymous daily warnings about Tim?  Just how off
> ]topic and stupid was your message when you posted it?  Just how many
> ]plates of pork and beans do you eat each day to keep up your innane level
> ]of flatulence?
> ...
> ]Apparently that "Doctorhood" of yours is good only for masturbatory self
> ]congratulations, and when nobody pays attention to it, you turn around and
> ]put others down so that in your oppinion, such as it is, you come out
> ]smelling like roses.  Buddy, I've news for you, you aren't fooling anyone.
> ]You are the total absolute embodyment of shit.  No, before you
> ]congratulate yourself on your achievement of shithood, you aren't even
> ]even human or dog shit, no.  You are the essence of amoeba shit.  The
> ]lowest of the low. You've a long way to go before you will ever achive
> ]the status of high human shit.  But I must admit, you certainly know how
> ]to strive for that goal.  It's too bad you'll never be more than low
> ]grade microscopic shit though.
> ]...
> ]And for that, you have my deepest condolances.  At least I hope this
> ]comforts you in your lack of life, for assuredly you haven't much of one.
> ]At least at a minimum, if you get nothing else from this message, you'll
> ]get a tenth of an ounce of pitty.
> ]...
> ]And maybe someday, if you are really really good you might even achive
> ]rat shitdom.  Then we'll be real proud of you for being rat shit, but
> ]until that time, strive hard and work long hours.  Hey, and when you reach
> ]rat shitdom and become emeritus ratus shitus, we'll throw you a party!
> 
> Aren't the "cypher punks" a polite lot?
> 
> ---
> 
> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
> Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
>