From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:56:10 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: RE: Modulating the FM noise spectrum considered infeasible
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Charley Musselman <c.musselman@internetmci.com> writes:

> At 10:38 AM 12/3/96 -0500, Bob Hettinga wrote:
> >At 9:52 am -0500 12/3/96, James A. Tunnicliffe wrote:
> >> At 2:55 am -0500 12/3/96, Timothy C. May wrote:
> >>> [...]Having said this, Johnson noise makes a superior noise source,
> >                          ^^^^^^^
> >>> if a physical source is desired.
> ><snip>
> >>Yours makes NOISE?  Impressive...
> >>
> >>In this case, I guess entropy is preferable to atrophy, though.  :-)
> >
> >Indeed.
> >
> >I've found that my Johnson only makes noise with the proper, er,
> >peripheral, though...
> 
> Geez, guys, what's this?  Pound the physicist day?  Johnson noise
> is the Brownian motion of electrons in an electronic circuit.  It
> is the irreducible noise, often measured in temperature (obvious?)

That's what I mean when I call the "cypher punks" "uncouth juveniles".
To them "Johnson" is only another name for a penis. Elliptic curves are
off-topic. One time pads are succeptible to brute-force attacks. Etc.

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