1996-12-18 - Re: ITAR -> EAR; loss of First Amendment Rights.

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From: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>
To: “Peter D. Junger” <junger@pdj2-ra.F-REMOTE.CWRU.Edu>
Message Hash: 6c2357cc495d1d0c4395d8c50fce8ef25f9ec850ac3b0c993cd83f2db42e84ea
Message ID: <3.0.32.19961218133324.009fad80@cybercash.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-12-18 18:36:27 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:36:27 -0800 (PST)

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From: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:36:27 -0800 (PST)
To: "Peter D. Junger" <junger@pdj2-ra.F-REMOTE.CWRU.Edu>
Subject: Re: ITAR -> EAR; loss of First Amendment Rights.
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19961218133324.009fad80@cybercash.com>
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At 09:43 PM 12/14/96 -0500, Peter D. Junger wrote:
>: I am not aware of any prior time when the government
>: attempted to claim that printed material, freely
>: available in bookstores and newsstands to US citizens,
>: became contraband when sold or given to a non-citizen.
>
>A literal reading of the ITAR's provisions relating to cryptography
>leads to exactly that result.  And there have been strong suggestions
>that that is the intended result in some of the statements made by
>representatives of the State Department.  
>
>If you are interested in this you might look into MIT's experiences
>when they published the book with the PGP source code.

Look back at the first few volumes of Cryptologia in which this debate
was documented -- back in 1978 ff.

The NSA under Adm. Inman tried to get crypto declared born classified,
just like atomic weapons work.  Congress told him NO.

Perhaps it's time for Congress to speak again.

You'd think these folks would take 'no' for an answer....

 - Carl

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