From: Jeremiah A Blatz <jer+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:06:59 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: ITARs effects
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Adam Shostack <adam@homeport.org> writes:
> I cross posted the ITAR proposed rev pointers to Firewalls.  In
> addition to an entertaining rant, Marcus posted this:
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Marcus J. Ranum -----
> 
> From mjr@mail.clark.net  Thu Dec 12 17:38:57 1996
> Message-Id: <199612122240.RAA10556@mail.clark.net>
> Comments: Authenticated sender is <mjr@mail.clark.net.>
> From: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr@mail.clark.net>
> Organization: V-ONE Corp Baltimore office
> To: adam@homeport.org
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:42:00 +0000
> Subject: that doc....
> Priority: normal
> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a)
> 
> 
> You posted a pointer to that document. It was quite interesting.
> I see that the feds are making INDIVIDUALS responsible for
> ENFORCING export laws!!!  Read carefully:

<snip excerpt>

> This implies that putting something up for FTP == export. Holy
> shit.

This has always been the case. At this point, it is sufficient to make
the downlaoder promise that they are a US citizen-unit (eg the mit pgp
dist.). Of course, seeing as how no congressional laws involved, the
ores. could decide that that's not good enough on a whim.

Jer

"standing on top of the world/ never knew how you never could/ never knew
 why you never could live/ innocent life that everyone did" -Wormhole

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