From: snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:17:32 -0800 (PST)
To: m5@vail.tivoli.com
Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC]Re: PICS is not censorship
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Message-ID: <199612111636.KAA01346@smoke.suba.com>
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Mike said:
> Gemini Thunder wrote:
> > There are universally valid truths.  You implicitly admit so by
> > stating "...at most, one religion is correct".
> No, he didn't; he said "at most".  I personally think none is correct,
> and I don't agree there are universally valid truths.  I defy you to
> explain how you know that to be so.
> 

Universally valid truths:

     Down is towards the nearest object of gravitational attraction that 
you are influenced by. Up is away.

     E=mc^2.

> > The problem is we can not always determine what the universally valid
> > truth is (especially so in moral/religious matters)
> Then why do you think there is such a thing?

     To think outherwise would imply a non-casual universe.

> > so we tend to cop-out 
> Why is it a "cop-out" to accept the limits of human perception?

     Most people who "Accept their limits" never manage to get beyond them.

> > and say there are no truths, or something 
> > along the lines of:
> > "Well, that might be right for you, but not for me."
> > or the one I love to hate:
> > "Perception is reality."
> How do you know reality is something other than perception if you
> don't perceive it to be so?

    Collusion (spelling?). Two or more observers get together and compare 
perceptions. If their perceptions are noot the same, or at most similar, 
then perception is _not_ reality.

     HTH.



Petro, Christopher C.
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snow@smoke.suba.com