From: “Mullen Patrick” <Mullen.Patrick@mail.ndhm.gtegsc.com>
To: “Ray Arachelian” <sunder@brainlink.com>
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From: "Mullen Patrick" <Mullen.Patrick@mail.ndhm.gtegsc.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:25:42 -0800 (PST)
To: "Ray Arachelian" <sunder@brainlink.com>
Subject: RE: Java DES breaker?
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A few small bugs in this idea, at least for the masses --
1) This would only appeal to people who have unlimited usage
2) ...and don't care about not having their phone available (I know they're
asleep at the time)
3) ...and don't have an ISP that will kick them off when a timeout period
expires.
...But if you implement it in a way where the user can hang up the phone and
leave the browser on with the applet running, that would probably work. It
would be easier to use than downloading executable code and a keyspace
manually...
PM
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From: Ray Arachelian on Tue, Dec 10, 1996 15:57
Subject: Java DES breaker?
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Here's a thought,
While Java isn't a workhorse performance wise, it's very simple for
anyone with a half decent browser to use java applets. Writing an
implementation of DES in Java should be fairly easy, however it will run
slow on most browsers. This performance drop will make it far easier for
Joe Webuser to easily help break DES for us.
Previous efforts at breaking DES and RSA have done quite well, but the
number of people involved can be greatly increased if you tell someone
just go to this page and leave your browser on overnight, every night.
The applets would get a key range from the server, process them, and
return a yeah or nay back for however far they manage to process before
the user returns in the morning.
With JIT's (Just In Time Compilers) and the sheer numbers of users that
this can attract, the efforts at breaking weaker cyphers can be increased.
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