From: aga <aga@dhp.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 04:00:22 -0800 (PST)
To: "Igor Chudov @ home" <ichudov@algebra.com>
Subject: Re: libsln.htm -- Is Libel a Crime?
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drgrubor is now at the pgh.org instead of aol.com

On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:

> [Cc: to Dr. John Martin Grubor, Law Systems Institute, Medical-Cannabis Assn]
> 
> Jim Choate wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >    Landskroner, LTD. [INLINE]
> >    
> > Libel / Slander
>  
> I am not sure if you posted this information in response to my request
> to cite a statute that would prove that libel is a crime.
> 
> Me> Jim Choate wrote:
> Me> > 
> Me> > 
> Me> > 
> Me> > Are you aware that attributing statements in print to a party when that
> Me> > party did not write them is a crime?
> Me> 
> Me> cite the statute
> 
> 
> These postings do not prove that libel is a crime. It is because libel
> is not a crime. Libel is a tort, and unlike with crime, the government
> cannot initiate a legal action against someone for libel. Only injured
> (libeled) individuals and not the government can sue in a libel case.
> 

That is correct.  Libel is a tort and not a crime.

> I would appreciate if someone more knowledgeable about the law could
> comment on this. I may be mistaken.
> 
> igor 

No, you are correct Igor.  Libel is written defamation, and defamation
is NEVER a crime in the USA.  It may be in other countries, but not
the good old USA.

> 
> >    Libel / Slander is an area that involves defamatory oral or written
> >    statements containing false and misleading material which causes
> >    damage or injury to reputation and/or monetary loss.
> >    

And it is tough to prove.  Just where was this article posted at?

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> >    
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These guys do not know what they are talking about.

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> 
> 
> 
> 	- Igor.
> 

The assholes are not Criminal Lawyers, and I will give them a call
to check them out...

I left a mesage with them. and told the InterNet lawyer to call
be back.  This is just a Civil Law firm looking for business.

-aga