From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:29:43 -0800 (PST)
To: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Cats Out of Bags
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                          SANDY SANDFORT
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C'punks,

On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote:

> fascinating reading sandy, but
> 
> >
> >The better metaphor for crypto is that the genie is out of the
> >bottle.  Alternatively, that the crypto bell cannot be unrung.
> 
> these have the same conceptual limitations I was flaming. to
> use the analogy:
> 
> 1. it is unconstitutional to put a crypto genie in a bottle
> in the first place.
> 2. it is unconstitutional to make laws against ringing crypto bells.

We do not disagree except neither of the metaphors I gave suggest
anything about the "putting in the bag" part of the deal.  In no
way does either suggest a right, power or even ability of anyone
to limit any freedom.  They are mute on the subject.  Their sole
meaning is that one CAN'T undo what is already done.  In the
instant case, that means the wide-spread availability of strong
crypto.
 

 S a n d y

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