From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 18:49:52 -0800 (PST)
To: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: Re: My Departure, Moderation, and "Ownership of the List"
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Timothy C. May wrote:
> With no false modesty I tried awfully hard to compose
> substantive essays on crypto-political topics, often more than one per day.
> (Others did too, but they seem to be tapering off as well, leaving the list
> to be dominated by something called a "Toto," the "O.J. was framed!"
> ravings of Dale Thorn,

Dale, that's me!

> * To summarize:
> - the decision to censor the list was made without any discussion on the
> list, without any discussion with at least some of the longterm core
> contributors, and was presented as a "fait accompli."
> - while John has every right to do with his hardware as he wishes, he does
> not "own" the Cypherpunks group (though whether he owns the "list" is a
> semantically debatable point)

Which is exactly the point I labored so long on while Tim May was
sitting on the sidelines.

> - whatever our group once was, or still is, is not dependent on having a
> particular mailing list running on someone's home machine...and it cannot
> be claimed that any person "owns" the Cypherpunks group.

Ditto.