From: Michael Gurski <mgursk1@umbc.edu>
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:54:07 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks list <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: remailer-operators DEA agents?
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On 7 Feb 1997, Secret Squirrel wrote:

> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> > c.musselman@internetmci.com (Charley Musselman) writes:
> > > C'punks --
> > >     When I told a friend about the alt.drugs.pot cultivation newsgroup
> > > and suggested that he use an anonymous remailer to post to the group,
> > > he laughed and said, "Who do you suppose runs the remailers?  ATF,
> > > FBI, DEA, that's who!"  Gee, it makes sense to this paranoid.  Does
> > > anyone know the answer?  Specifically, how can we choose a trusted
> > > remailer?
> >
> > Even if the feds are not directtly involved, the so-called "cypher punk"
> > remailers are run by people who should not be trusted.  Check out their
> > remailer-operators list: it's full of announcements that some specific
> > person posted something via the remailer that the operator didn't like.
> 
> Examples, please?

What [I believe] is being referred to is an incident where someone
seriously messed up the formatting on a message sent through a
remailer to the point where it ended up in a mailbox on the system as
opposed to the intended destination, at which point the operator of
the remailer (I can't recall off the top of my head who) reported to
remailer-operators@c2.net that xyz@foo.bar was trying to send some
type of image file to someone@some.where...  Not at all monitoring the
messages going through the remailer, just reporting something that was
so F.U.B.A.R. that the software couldn't figure out what was supposed
to happen.

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