1997-02-09 - Re: On “spammers” and “anti-spammers”

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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1997-02-09 16:20:11 UTC
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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:20:11 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: On "spammers" and "anti-spammers"
In-Reply-To: <JL9u2D1w165w@bwalk.dm.com>
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Path: perun!dlv
From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr. Dimitri Vulis)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,news.admin.net-abuse.e-mail,news.groups,news.admin.misc,news.admin.censorship,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,soc.culture.russian
Subject: On "spammers" and "anti-spammers"
Message-ID: <JL9u2D1w165w@bwalk.dm.com>
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 97 10:52:06 EST
Organization: Death Camp #6

Several days ago one Robert Hicks, DM Group, Direct Marketing Management, 2774
National Pkwy, Brunswick, Ohio, retained one Thomas Gallman, Telysis
Communications Ltd, to do a mass e-mail for them. Unfortunately, Telesys made
a small typo when sending out their mass e-mail. DM Group's domain address is
"dm1.com" and our domain address is "dm.com" (no digit). That happens a lot,
and not always accidentally. Malcontents like Peter da Silva, Chris Lewis of
BNR.CA, John Gilmore of EFF/Cygnus Support, Ray Arachelian of Earthlink.com,
Sandy Sandfart of C2Net, Peter Vorobieff of LANL.GOV, and other well-known
liars and forgers intentionally forge garbage traffic on the Internet with
their enemies' domain names (including ours) and later complain about their
own forgeries.

I was surprised by Telysis's unintentional error, but I hold no grudge
against them. However as the result of their mass mailing our site has
received hundreds of flames from the self-appointed net.cops, ending up in
mailboxes "postmaster" and "orphan" (sent to a non-existent mailbox
"freeway@dm.com"). Many such flames were also sent to PSI, our upstream site.

I am fairly dissatisfied with the way PSI handled this and other incidents
involving forged traffic made to look like it came from dm.com. Their lines
include "we've been receiving a lot of complaints about you" (and it doesn't
matter whether any complaints are true) and "if you prove that this traffic
did not originate at your site, then we won't hold you responsible" and
"These messages are unwelcome intrusions that violate unwritten rules of the
Internet, and are strongly resented. Please confirm that you are aware of
these complaints and are taking measures to stop this practice."

I also noticed a sharp contrast between the polite letter send out by
dm1.com (who were trying to sell something, I presume; and you don't sell
anything if you're rude to prospective clients) and the obnoxious, obscene,
and threatening responses the net.cops sent to our site. I will quote a
selection of these complaints to illustrate the kind of abuse many ISPs are
subjected to. Please observe that one of the complainers claims to have
received "death threats" from a nonexistent account at our site, several
others claim to have received such junk e-mail from our site before, etc.

If your e-mail to dm.com is quoted below, please consider the following:
If someone sends you junk e-mail, it does not make it OK to send abusive
and threatening e-mail to (what you believe to be) the spammer's ISP.
Please try to use better manners, even when you deal with behavior that
you consider to be rude.

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:19:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Vinylot <vinylot@panix.com>
To: freeway@dm.com
Cc: vinylot@panix.com, postmaster@dm.com
Subject: DEATH THREAT
In-Reply-To: <B0000010411@telysis3.telysis.com>
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.94.970206151319.15438E-100000@panix.com>

Hey assholes why dont you configure yer  fuckin spam properly so that when
we try to remove ouselves from the list we don't get even more unwanted
email
you scumbags
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:32:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Vinylot <vinylot@panix.com>
To: postmaster@bwalk.dm.com, postmaster@dm.com
Cc: vinylot@panix.com
Subject: In re: "Death Threat" *and* "Returned mail (fwd)"
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.94.970206212030.21557A-100000@panix.com>

I see your customer has made themselves unreachable via email, in
addition to sending out extremely annoying spam...
I'm just sending this note to let u know that I *am not* making any death
threats.
Vinylot
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:10:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve Emmett <semmett@adams.patriot.net>
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, postmaster@telysis.com, abuse@telysis.com
        postmaster@telysis3.telysis.com, abuse@telysis3.telysis.com,
        freeway@dm.com
Cc: Steve Emmett <semmett@adams.patriot.net>
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970206103706.8729A-100000@adams.patriot.net>
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970206104357.8729B-100000@adams.patriot.net>

I just sent you a rejection before realizing that YOU have already
spammed me and I have already given you a previous notice (28 January 1997).

Therefore, since you have SPAMMED me again, you have accepted the terms
of my licencing agreement you previously received from me - to wit, each
subsequent use (including this most recent one) are now subject to a
$1000 per-use fee.

You have failed to provide a valid US Postal Address as required by the
licence.  You will immediately provide the address so that I can send you
a bill.

Violation of this license agreement is cause for civil suit.

You are now on notice to immediately comply with the terms of the
licensing agreement.
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Message-Id: <m0vsYnR-0003vzC@TFS.COM>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 97 10:43 PST
From: hiha@TFS.COM (Harry Iha)
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, freeway@dm.com
Subject: Re:  FREE OFFER !!
Cc: admin@206.222.107.196, admin@dm.com, admin@dm1.com, hiha@TFS.COM,
        postmaster@206.222.107.196, postmaster@dm.com, postmaster@dm1.com

This is the second instance of this unsolicited, commercial e-mail
I've received.  The first was from Freeway4@dm1.com, the second,
identical message from what appears to be the same user.

Both times, I've responded, as instructed, to be removed from this
user's mailing list.

Please remove me from your current mailing list, and do not include
me in future lists.

Thank you for your cooperation.

hiha@tfs.com
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Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970206134940.0066f5f4@pop.vnet.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 08:49:40 -0500
To: freeway@dm.com, postmaster@dm.com, abuse@dm.com, admin@dm.com
From: Brantley Smith <bubbas@vnet.net>
Subject: FREE OFFER !!/ *GET A LIFE*!!

        Please do something to stop this spammer.  This is the second
message I've recieved from this dude.  The whole message is below.
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Message-Id: <199702062247.OAA21385@jetcity.com>
Comments: Authenticated sender is <ioceram@[204.201.228.10]>
From: "Bryce Conner" <stars@jetcity.com>
Organization: Procrastinate Later
To: postmaster@206.222.107.196, postmaster@dm.com
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:43 +0000
Subject: (Fwd) FREE OFFER !!:   I want these mailings to stop immediately
Reply-To: stars@jetcity.com
Cc: bryce@jetcity.com

This user has repeatedly sent me unsolicited advertising, even after
I requested that they stop.   I consider this a clear example of
harrassment and net abuse.

I request that you warn your customer or take the proper
diciplinary action.   This kind of activity (SPAMMING) is extremely
frowned upon by the net in general, and one request to this person
should be enough for them to remove me from their mailing list,
especially since I did not request to be on it in the first place.
Often this will result in the removal of the account in question.

I promised to follow up with this action if they repeated, and so
here it is.

I would apprecate a reply to this email within 1 week.

Sincerely,

Bryce Conner
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From: ralph_muha@ycrdi.com (Ralph Muha)
Reply-To: ralph_muha@ycrdi.com
To: postmaster@dm.com, postmaster@telysis.com
Subject: Fwd: FREE OFFER !!
Date: 06 Feb 1997 15:54:01 GMT
Message-Id: <649199615.3797450@ycrdi.com>
Organization: Young Chang R & D Institute

please keep this crap out of my mailbox!
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 Fri, 07 Feb 1997 00:42:38 +1000
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Comments: Authenticated sender is <alex@latte.net>
From: "Alex Fields" <alex@latte.net>
Organization: Latte Net Communications
To: postmaster@dm.com
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:53:45 +10
Subject: (Fwd) Delivery failure

tell this asshole to take me off his GD list.

thank you.

alex fields
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From: Steve Greenfield <redbeard@nwlink.com>
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, freeway@dm.com, postmaster@dm.com
        postmaster@206.222.107.196, postmaster@dm1.com
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 08:49:10 +0500
Message-Id: <yam6976.511.138150712@mail.nwlink.com>
Organization: Polymorph Digital Photography and Electronics
Subject: Please read and respond

I recieved the following unsolicited Email today. Please take the
appropriate action. I am sick and tired of receiving multiple
"junk" emails every day, despite the fact that my signature always
includes info indicating that I do not welcome them, and in fact
will not do business with anyone who does business this way.

<snipped>

--
Steve Greenfield
redbeard@nwlink.com
If you don't want my business, go ahead and junk Email.
If you never want income from me, go ahead and spam.
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Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970206171705.006d71c4@paradise.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:17:05 -0500
To: postmaster@206.222.107.196, postmaster@dm.com, postmaster@dm1.com
From: Bubba <gabubba@paradise.net>
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !!

Dear Postmaster,

I received the following unsolicited e-mail, please ensure that this person
no longer sends unsolicited e-mail.  If I receive another message from this
user, I will refer it to the proper autorities for investigation as an
illegl scam.

<snipped>

   Bubba   "bubba69"  or "BearPiss" on IRC, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

   40 year old, big ol' cub's face fuckin', cigar smokin' tattooed
   leather top daddy bear, 6'2", 240#, 38" 501's, blue eyes, furry,
   BUSHY greying beard and 'stache, flags left black, red, and yellow,
   in Atlanta, GA

   If you enjoy bearcodes:  B8 f+ t+ w+  d+ g++ k++

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	id <01BC142A.585245A0@ip143.van5.pacifier.com>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:36:16 -0800
Message-Id: <01BC142A.585245A0@ip143.van5.pacifier.com>
From: Tony Foulke <tonyf@pacifier.com>
To: "'B0000010411@telysis3.telysis.com'"
	 <B0000010411@telysis3.telysis.com>,
        "'freeway@206.222.107.196'"
	 <freeway@206.222.107.196>,
        "'freeway@dm.com'" <freeway@dm.com>
Subject: RE: FREE OFFER !!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:36:11 -0800

This is a formal notice that bulk email is NOT to be sent to
tonyf@pacifier.com  It is not wanted.  Any UCE coming from you or any
clients of yours will be considered harassment.  Not only will a bill for
my service charge of $250 be received by you, but a criminal complaint
will be filed as well.

COMMERCIAL EMAIL IS NOT WANTED AT THIS ACCOUNT OR ANY OTHER ACCOUNT HELD
BY ANTHONY FOULKE.  This is your ONLY notice.

--Anthony Foulke

--
  All unsolicited commercial e-mail coming to this account is subject to a
     service charge of $250 per piece of mail. Sending any UCE to this
             account constitutes acceptance of these terms.
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:22:58 -0500 (EST)
From: snakeman <snakeman@thecore.com>
To: root@dm.com
Subject: FREE OFFER !! (fwd)
Message-Id: <Pine.NEB.3.95.970206181747.503A-100000@guardian.thecore.com>

If you do not wish your mailbox to be flooded with complaints, and,
possibly, unix kernels - please take the appropriate action with
the below user who is spamming mailboxes. Any further posts from that user
will result in a campaign on Usenet to ban your site.
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          by mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 )
          with SMTP id AAA28725; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:45:53 +0000
Message-Id: <32FA50AF.4AAB@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 16:44:15 -0500
From: "Howard M. Ginsberg" <h.m.ginsberg@worldnet.att.net>
Organization: Amateur Radio Operator W1HG/4
To: freeway@206.222.107.196
Cc: postmaster@telysis.com, freeway@dm.com
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !!
References: <B0000008087@telysis3.telysis.com>

PLEASE IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST.
ANY FURTHER E-MAILS FROM YOU WILL RESULT IN THE AUTOMATIC GENERATION OF
A MINIMUM OF 10,000+ E-MAILS TO YOU ON A DAILY BASIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMMEDIATE COOPERATION.
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To: freeway@[206.222.107.196]
Cc: postmaster@dm.com, psinet-domain-admin@PSI.COM, hostinfo@PSI.COM,
        domain-fee-contact@PSI.COM, postmaster@TELYSIS.COM
Subject: JUNK: FREE OFFER !! (REMOVE DELETE UNSUBSCRIBE UN-SUBSCRIBE)
In-Reply-To: Message <B0000008087@telysis3.telysis.com> of
             "Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:17:36 EST"
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 09:36:26 -0500
Message-Id: <16506.855239786@interlog.com>
From: John R MacMillan <john@interlog.com>

Please remove me from your junk mailing list.  If you are not the
originator of this message, you may wish to know that a spammer is
making use of your mail system.  ISPs please consider having an
``Acceptable Use'' policy that forbids spamming.

This junk mail appears to be from:

freeway@206.222.107.196

To a junk mailing list maintained by:

freeway@dm.com

And appears to have been injected into the mail system at:

telysis3.telysis.com

Accordingly, the following addresses have been notified:

freeway@[206.222.107.196]
postmaster@dm.com
psinet-domain-admin@PSI.COM
hostinfo@psi.com
domain-fee-contact@PSI.COM
postmaster@TELYSIS.COM

Further mail from freeway@206.222.107.196 will be automatically
forwarded to the above addresses, and possibly to sites that maintain
lists of abusive spammers.  Mail from this address WILL NOT BE SEEN BY
ME.

This is an automated message.
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:06:02 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <199702061606.KAA18681@legend.txdirect.net>
From: Brian D Heaton <bheaton@txdirect.net>
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !! -- SPAM
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, freeway@dm.com, postmaster@telysis.com
Cc: abuse@psi.net, abuse@psi.com, postmaster@psi.net, postmaster@psi.com

Sirs,

        Remove me from all mailings managed by you company immediately.
This is my second request.  Any further mailings from your organization
will result in further action.

PSI - This network abuser is a client of your service.  I would appreciate
a notification of the action taken agains this organization.

                                BDH
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	id UAA08328; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:19:18 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <v01510100af20433e39a2@[207.8.2.23]>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:29:47 -0600
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, freeway@dm.com
From: netminder@jump.net (ERic V & Lisa S)
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !!
Cc: postmaster@206.222.107.196

I don't want any free stuff.

In fact, I'm quite put out that I'm getting this junk.

I'm copying your postmaster on the off chance that it's not you, on the
hopes that you'll get a stern talking to or perhaps even removal from your
service.

Spamming like this is VERY frowned upon.

It appears (as I've now received several of these 'type REMOVE' type
messages) that someone is selling my email address.  I would appreciate, if
that is the case, that you send me their name and/or number and/or email
address so that I can let them know personally my feelings.

I also recommend, if that is indeed the case, that you contact the BBB and
your State Comptroller and see what can be done about capturing the
charlatans.

Good luck with the barrage of nasty messages you're about to receive.

ERic
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From: Edward Burr <egburr@kiowa.wildstar.net>
Message-Id: <199702071453.IAA21628@kiowa.wildstar.net>
Subject: ABUSE (was: FREE OFFER !!)
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, root@206.222.107.196, postmaster@206.222.107.196
        abuse@206.222.107.196, twalton@ACSI.NET, postmaster@TELYSIS.COM,
        psinet-domain-admin@PSI.COM, info@DM1.COM, root@CLEVER.NET,
        root@ACSI.NET, postmaster@ACSI.NET, abuse@ACSI.NET
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:53:09 -0600 (CST)
Cc: root@TELYSIS.COM, postmaster@TELYSIS.COM, abuse@TELYSIS.COM, root@dm.com,
        postmaster@dm.com, abuse@dm.com, root@DM1.COM, postmaster@DM1.COM,
        abuse@DM1.COM
In-Reply-To: <B0000008091@telysis3.telysis.com> from "freeway@206.222.107.196" at Jan 28, 96 08:17:40 am

Dear junk email spammer, please REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST
IMMEDIATELY.  I charge for reading unsolicited email advertising.
I did not sign up for this, and I should not have to request to
not be made a victim of this.  I have a limited amout of disk space
available to me, and your junk email is wasting some of it.

By the way, you really need to fix your clock; the current year
is 1997.

POSTMASTER/SYSADMIN: Please archive this notice in case I need
proof that I sent it and it was received at your site.  Thank you.

ACSI.NET         You are the last nameserved host along the route
                 to the originating IP address of this spam.
TELYSIS.COM      You are the originating mail server.
DM.COM (PSI.COM) You are who this spam is supposedly TO; this
                 indicates you are probably being used as a mail list
                 forwarder.
DM1.COM (CLEVER.NET) You are hosting this spammer's web site.

(offending junk email spam below...)

--/Edward Burr/-------------------+----------------------------------
| Senior, Science Education, OU   | Use of my e-mail address or URL |
| egburr@wildstar.net             | is restricted.  Visit my home   |
| http://www.wildstar.net/~egburr | page for details.               |
 \                               / \                               /
    \ Unless otherwise noted, all opinions here are solely my own./
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From: ISCHLANG@IX.NETCOM.COM
To: postmaster@dm.com
Subject: LEGAL WARNING
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 06:48:17 GMT
Message-Id: <32fecec9.1097207@smtp.ix.netcom.com>

Dear Postmaster,
	On two other occasions I have requested to be removed from
your clients list, yet I am still receiving unsolicited email
advertising from them. This is in direct violation of US CODE TITLE 47
under which I may collect 500 dollars for each occurrence. Please look
into this and get back to me prior to my filing charges against you
and your client for this continued harassment.
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From: Ken W <hazmat@shore.net>
Message-Id: <199702061417.JAA02044@nsa.ecosoft.com>
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !!
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, postmaster@telysis.com, postmaster@dm1.com
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:17:22 -0500 (EST)
Cc: freeway@dm.com
In-Reply-To: <B0000008257@telysis3.telysis.com> from "freeway@206.222.107.196" at Jan 28, 1996 08:23:34 AM

This is a spam is is hopefully grounds for immediate termination
of your account.  People like you make the Internet a place that
is not very fun anymore.


<snipped>

--
hazmat@shore.net               http://www.shore.net/~hazmat
Shore.Net Web Administration
webmaster@shore.net            http://www.shore.net/

 "...and the number of the beast is vivivi...."
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X-Sender: acates@mailhost.hooked.net
Message-Id: <l03010d00af1ff926c8b5@[206.80.13.141]>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:12:19 -0800
To: postmaster@dm.com
From: Alden Cates <acates@hooked.net>
Subject: "FREE OFFER !!" Junk e-mail

I tried to remove myself from this listing but I can't!!  I did NOT signup
to be on this list and I don't want this tye of crap in my e-mail box.  I
got a message saying that the address my "REMOVE: e-mail went to did not
get there.  I recently got this e-mail:
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Message-Id: <199702061528.IAA12115@cu.imt.net>
From: "Richard Barndt" <richard@imt.net>
To: <freeway@dm.com>
Cc: <postmaster@dm.com>
Subject: REMOVE
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:30:42 -0700

Offense under US code Title 47, Sec 227(b) (1) (C)
I have recently received UNSOLICITED and UNWANTED junk e-mail from an
individual who appears to be using your site.  A copy of that mail is
attached herewith.  Junk Mail is now regarded as the same as unwanted and
unsolicited junk faxes and telemarketing calls - all of which are now
ILLEGAL under US federal law:

     By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
     meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)
     (1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to
     such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual monetary
     loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for EACH violation.

Please ensure this is stopped NOW.  You have been put on notice.  If you
confirm to me promptly that effective action has been taken against those
persons responsible, I will not take the matter further on this occasion.

If you do not provide me with such confirmation in a timely manner, or if
ANY further UNSOLICITED or UNWANTED junk mail should be received from your
site, I will instruct my attorney to issue a writ WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE,
and the matter will then be pursued under federal law.  I will separately
notify your upstream providers as they may also be liable for violations
originating from your site.
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From: sstutts@usit.net (THE Lone Wolf)
To: 206.222.107.196@abuse.networks.net, B0000008256@telysis3.telysis.com
        dm.com@abuse.networks.net, freeway@206.222.107.196, freeway@dm.com,
        postmaster@[206.222.107.196], postmaster@dm1.com,
        postmaster@telysis3.telysis.com,
        telysis3.telysis.com@abuse.networks.net
Subject: Offence under US code Title 47, Sec 227(b) (1) (C)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 06:15:55 GMT
Message-Id: <32fec88e.867280@smtp.usit.net>

I have recently received UNSOLICITED and UNWANTED junk e-mail from an
individual who appears to be using your site.  A copy of that mail is
attached herewith.  Junk Mail is now regarded as the same as unwanted
and unsolicited junk faxes and telemarketing calls - all of which are
now ILLEGAL under US federal law:

     By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
     meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)
     (1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to
     such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual monetary
     loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for EACH violation.

Please ensure this is stopped NOW.  You have been put on notice.  If you
confirm to me promptly that effective action has been taken against those
persons responsible, I will not take the matter further on this occasion.

If you do not provide me with such confirmation in a timely manner, or if
ANY further UNSOLICITED or UNWANTED junk mail should be received from =
your
site, I may instruct my attorney to issue a writ WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE,
and the matter will then be pursued under federal law.  I will separately
notify your upstream providers as they may also be liable for violations
originating from your site.
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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 19:53:59 -0500
From: Gregory Boop <gboop@pagesz.net>
To: 206.222.107.196@abuse.networks.net, abuse@206.222.107.196, abuse@dm.com
        abuse@dm1.com, abuse@telysis.com, abuse@telysis3.telysis.com,
        B0000008256@telysis3.telysis.com, dm.com@abuse.networks.net,
        freeway@206.222.107.196, freeway@dm.com, postmaster@206.222.107.196,
        postmaster@dm.com, postmaster@dm1.com, postmaster@telysis.com,
        postmaster@telysis3.telysis.com,
        telysis3.telysis.com@abuse.networks.net
Subject: Offence under US code Title 47, Sec 227(b) (1) (C)

I have recently received UNSOLICITED and UNWANTED junk e-mail from an
individual who appears to be using your site.  A copy of that mail is
attached herewith.  Junk Mail is now regarded as the same as unwanted
and unsolicited junk faxes and telemarketing calls - all of which are
now ILLEGAL under US federal law:

     By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer
     meets the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)
     (1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to
     such equipment, punishable by action to recover actual monetary
     loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for EACH violation.

Please ensure this is stopped NOW.  You have been put on notice.  If you
confirm to me promptly that effective action has been taken against
those
persons responsible, I will not take the matter further on this
occasion.

If you do not provide me with such confirmation in a timely manner, or
if
ANY further UNSOLICITED or UNWANTED junk mail should be received from
your
site, I will instruct my attorney to issue a writ WITHOUT FURTHER
NOTICE,
and the matter will then be pursued under federal law.  I will
separately
notify your upstream providers as they may also be liable for violations
originating from your site.
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Reply-To: <bicker@concentric.net>
From: "Brian Charles Kohn" <bicker@concentric.net>
To: <abuse@dm.com>
Subject: Fw: FREE OFFER !!
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 07:00:31 -0600

Please note that your subscriber "freeway" is sending out unsolicited
commercial solicitations.  Besides the legal issues, it is not appreciated.
 Please address this issue with your subscriber.
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:51:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Larry Phillips <larry@casper.tvinet.com>
To: freeway@206.222.107.196, root@206.222.107.196, postmaster@206.222.107.196
Cc: freeway@dm.com, root@dm.com, postmaster@dm.com
Subject: Re: FREE OFFER !!
In-Reply-To: <B0000010696@telysis3.telysis.com>
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970206165006.25645A-100000@Casper>

Bugger off

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 18:56:40 -0600
To: postmaster@telysis.com, postmaster@dm.com
From: "John D. Webb" <jdwebb@logiclabs.com>
Subject: SPAM ABUSE: FREE OFFER !!

To whom it may concern,

I received this *unsolicited* SPAM mail originating from or referencing
your domain. I do *not* appreciate receiving such junk mail. I request that
you take whatever steps are necessary with the account holder to see that
they desist such abuses.

   Thank you,
   John Webb
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:06:21 -0500 (EST)
From: FZR400@aol.com
Message-Id: <970208110620_-1174326236@emout05.mail.aol.com>
To: postmaster@bwalk.dm.com
Subject: Re: Returned mail


SOMEONE AT THIS DOMAIN HAS BEEN SENDING UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADVERTISING.
TELL THEM TO CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY.
Member, Internet Advertising Relief Association
http://users.aol.com/fzr400/junkmail.htm
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Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 22:13:02 -0800
To: abuse@PSI.COM, root@CLEVER.NET, abuse@CLEVER.NET
From: Brad Albom <brada@via.net>
Subject: SPAM: FREE OFFER !!
Cc: freeway@dm.com

Hi-

This email is to notify you that one of the domains and/or
users that you are resolving for is sending SPAM email.
The email included below was unsolicited and unwelcome.
I presume that you have policies regarding this type of
activity and will take appropriate action.

Thank you,

<snipped>

-brad albom
Software Engineering Solutions, Inc
2685 Marine Way, Suite 1215, Mountain View, CA 94043
email: brada@sesinc.com  <- Office address
alt  : brada@via.net     <- Home address, checked more frequently
phone: (415) 969-0141
alt  : (707) 552-5248
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Meaw.





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