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1997-02-15 - Re: [Declan McCullagh: “A List Goes Down In Flames,” from Netly]

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From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
To: Mike Duvos <mpd@netcom.com>
Message Hash: dc7125d3bd19838b1691707cef25e2009e26c9056ad4f89286070932d25bbc83
Message ID: <3305E540.58@gte.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-02-15 16:35:12 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:35:12 -0800 (PST)

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From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:35:12 -0800 (PST)
To: Mike Duvos <mpd@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [Declan McCullagh: "A List Goes Down In Flames," from Netly]
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Mike Duvos wrote:
> John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com> writes:
> [Fluffy Gilmore apologia by Declan expunged]
> Two small points.
> 1.  The rift between Gilmore/EFF and Cypherpunks is hardly
>     of recent origin, and dates back to when the EFF first
>     demonstrated to horrified Cypherpunks that its policy
>     would be one of appeasement and capitulation towards
>     clearly unacceptable legislation.  This is all in the
>     archives, including Tim May's essay on why he chose not
>     to renew his EFF membership.
> 2.  The article fails to mention Gilmore's new nickname. :)

I'm so disgusted by the other disinformation put out by John's loyal
friends (i.e. "respected" cypherpunks) on the subject of "disrupters
and sociopaths", etc. that I try not to reply to any of the crud I
see posted by those clowns.  But when someone tries to be reasonable,
conversation is possible.  So how about some points on "disrupters":

1. Disrupters don't like bullies.
2. Disrupters don't like mindless authorities.
3. Disrupters don't like control freaks.
4. Disrupters don't like liars and hypocrites.
5. Disrupters don't like NSA/CIA/DEA/FBI trolls.
6. Disrupters don't like Animal Farm policies and elitists.

In short, if Gilmore had come down on the real problem people once
in a while, they wouldn't have agitated the "disrupters" nearly as
much as they did.  But he wasn't about to do that, because he's one
of the problem people himself.  Fooey on you, Gilmore.  May you never
work in this business again.

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