From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:04:40 -0800 (PST)
To: toto@sk.sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Anonymous Nymserver: anon.nymserver.com
In-Reply-To: <199703141519.HAA27477@toad.com>
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Toto wrote:
> I will always remember reading a magazine piece by a fellow who
> described the increasing persecution of the Jews in Nazi Germany,
> and the abuses to which he was himself subjected.
> However, when describing the night when the jackboots kicked in
> his door to take his family to the death camps, he begins his
> account by saying, "They came without warning..."

Gosh, I feel bad whipping on one of the old/reliable/reputable
posters here, but, this seems to perfectly describe one T.C. May
and how he just couldn't believe what Sandy was doing, or that
Sandy would consider the c-punks' reputation to be expendable.

> > Check out the stiff who's pictured with Phil in the MicroTimes
> > current issue, his new partner or something.  Phil looks happy,
> > like they gave him a lifetime supply of double-stuff Oreos.

> Are both of Phil's partner's arms in plain view, or is his partner
> perhaps holding a gun on him?

I think someone else has a gun on both of them.  The "partner" is
wearing a badly-composed grin, but then he may have been pulled out
of the closet at the last moment for the photo, and the light could
be bothering him.

> I agree with TruthMonger's position that the very fact of extreme
> pressure being applied should be grounds for considering that perhaps
> PGP might have been compromised at some level, no matter what an
> analysis of the "numbers" shows, or one's faith in Philly Z.

Not only the software, but folks get lulled into complacency with
the "new, distributed" lists, thinking that since Gilmore/Sandfort
are "gone", everything is going to be OK from now on.

> There seems to be some weakly thought out definition of 'paranoia'
> going around which deems it to be the feeling you are supposed to get
> when you hear the sound of the jackboots on your door. Excuse me for
> disagreeing, but I believe the proper feeling at that point in time
> may be resignation to your own death (and a firm resolve not to go
> 'alone' into that dark night).

I have a Sid Vicious t-shirt that says "never let them take you
alive".  I really enjoyed the story of the Warsaw ghetto uprising
when I first heard it, and whereas Sid and the Warsaw dwellers are
from a different time and mindset, I think us modern folks can draw
the appropriate analogies.

> Or, if your door is strong enough, you might have one last chance
> to play "Hide the Salami" with Lady Byrd.

A gun in one hand and a babe in the other - what a privelege to be
an American!!  BTW, I saw an all-stainless Colt King Cobra .357
in a pawn shop the other day for $475.  Clean as a whistle.  I
snatched that puppy up real quick.  It would be my dying wish
to have some otherwise faceless bureaucrat be the recipient of
its intended use, should it come to that.

> Someone suggested to me, in private email, that they would suspect
> TruthMonger to be a Toto testicle, except for the lack of humor in
> any of his posts. However, I couldn't help but notice that TruthMonger's
> original post in this thread was a reply to a request for information in
> regard to "Anonymous Nymserver at anon.nymserver.com", and a request for
> an opinion as to the competence and integrity of those involved in its operation.

Exactly.  Now who would be taking an option on throwaways like that?

> Neither could I help noticing that TruthMonger's reply, which had
> mercilessly slammed both the integrity and motivations behind all
> remailer operations, and which suggested that one unequivocally mistrust
> all of them, was sent from the very anon-server in question.
> Make of this what you will, but bear in mind that Hypocrisy and
> Humor are not all that far apart in the dictionary.

[hee hee hee]