1997-03-26 - Exterminate all Faggots?

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From: Pittsburgh Admin <pgh@dhp.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1997-03-26 12:14:01 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:14:01 -0800 (PST)

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From: Pittsburgh Admin <pgh@dhp.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:14:01 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Exterminate all Faggots?
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On 15 Feb 1997, Against Moderation wrote:

> Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org> writes:
> > Don't you get it? Real censorship issues do not arise until someone
> > rocks the boat. It takes someone to rock the boat to make you aware
> > of your own prejudices of that nature. If it takes attacking
> > homosexuals and pissing them off enough to make them show their
> > true colors and begin censorship...so be it. Why be civil when that
> > civility serves to hide that which is ultimately against free speech?
> > 
> > You'll find those of us who -truly- want free speech are extremely
> > good at ignoring what we don't like.
> Perhaps I did not make myself clear.  I never suggested Dr. Grubor's
> views should be suppressed.  Not only do I believe he has every right
> to express them, I also believe (as I explained) that I think there is
> value in inducing censorship as he has, so as to get people's
> censorious tendencies out in the open where they can be fought.
> However, Dr. Grubor is no advocate of free speech (though I'm sure he
> thinks he is).  If Dr. Grubor had his way, he would severely restrict
> the rights of gay people to express themselves on Usenet.  Advocates
> of free speech must truly tolerate all speech, even that which they
> find strongly unpleasant or disturbing.

That is not true.  We just wish to exterminate all faggot control,
not the faggots themselves.  The faggots are well known ad the MOST
censorous group of all.

> My point was therefore that Dr. Grubor would do better to say
> "Exterminate all faggots" than "Exterminate all faggots in the name of
> free speech," and that those of us who truly support freedom of speech
> would do well to distance ourselves from Dr. Grubor, while still fully
> supporting his right to express his opinions.

Those of us who REALLY want free speech will exterminate all
faggot control over any and all usenet administration.