From: Alan Olsen <alan@ctrl-alt-del.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 09:09:26 -0800 (PST)
To: TruthMonger <an7575@anon.nymserver.com>
Subject: Re: Anonymous Nymserver: anon.nymserver.com
In-Reply-To: <199703120626.XAA27069@shaman.lycaeum.org>
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At 08:30 PM 3/12/97 -0700, TruthMonger wrote:
>Alan Olsen wrote:> > 
>> > At 06:53 AM 3/12/97 CST, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
>> > > an7575@anon.nymserver.com writes:
>> >> >>   The use of PGP=>2.5 suddenly became a 'non-issue' for use in the
U.S.
>> >> because they use both the algorithm and sub-routines developed by the
>> >> NSA and the Military.
>
>> >> >If you have an exploit for 2.5+, publish it.  Otherwise, you're just
>> >blowing FUD.
>
>> > I always wonder where these people get their information.  I know people
who
>> know little to nothing about cryptography, but "they know PGP has been
>> broken".
>
>  I always wonder why there seem to be so many lame fucks on
>the cypherpunks list who, rather than responding to the posts
>on the list, seem to be responding to some broken recording
>going on in their own head.
>  Naturally, these lame fucks never have a direct quote available
>to match the words inside their heads that they purport to place
>in the mouths of others.

The problem is burden of proof.  You made a claim with no evidence or facts
to back it up.

You made the statement that PGP >2.5 was comprimised.  When asked for
something more that assertion, you go off on a screed.

Are you retracting that claim?  Do you have something you want to share with
the rest of the class?

Unless you have something to back up that claim, we will treat you like any
of the other loons ranting about black helicopters, the Greys, and the rest
of the FUD.

>  Why don't 'these people' try actually following a thread and
>deal with the concepts involved, rather than spouting off their
>auto-bot, knee-jerk responses to the voices of old wars that
>they are still fighting inside their heads?

Believe it or not, I am trying to deal with the thread you started.  It might
not be the subject you want to address, but hey, you are the one who opened
his mouth...

If you are going to spread rumors, you might as well, as least have something
to back them up.

>TruthMonger

An oxymoron if I have ever heard one...

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