1997-05-27 - Re: SSN and passport

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From: “Mark M.” <markm@voicenet.com>
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Message Hash: 110e8e945d78232bd3edd13c41fdbfe3e4670448b50aaaf3375231258ca97376
Message ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970527164552.914A-100000@purple.voicenet.com>
Reply To: <199705271820.LAA07618@jefferson.hidden.net>
UTC Datetime: 1997-05-27 22:09:34 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 06:09:34 +0800

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From: "Mark M." <markm@voicenet.com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 06:09:34 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: SSN and passport
In-Reply-To: <199705271820.LAA07618@jefferson.hidden.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970527164552.914A-100000@purple.voicenet.com>
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On Tue, 27 May 1997, Anonymous wrote:

>      I recently applied for a U.S. passport and, as an experiment,
> entered a SSN of 000-00-0000.  The nice lady at the counter informed
> me that it would not be processed unless I provided a valid SSN (which
> gets forwarded to the IRS).  It was my understanding that this
> disclosure was voluntary and that another form was available for
> notifying the IRS that a passport had been applied for.
> 
>      My travel plans didn't allow me the luxury of delaying the
> application process, so I provided the damn number.  Does anyone know
> the real rules for this situation?  Must passports be cleared with the
> tax goons or do they just want to keep tabs on people travelling
> abroad?

I don't know the reason, but the IRS tax code requires that all passport
applicants supply their SSNs to the IRS.  The penalty for failing to
notify is $500.  I recently encountered this situation and just left
the SSN blank.  After explaining to the lady behind the counter that
I was not required to give my SSN to the State Department, she eventually
accepted the application without the SSN.  I sent a letter to the IRS
(address where tax returns are supposed to be sent) explainging the
situation and included my SSN in the letter.  I applied for the passport
two months ago and have not been hassled by the IRS.  A sample letter
is at ftp.cpsr.org/cpsr/privacy/ssn/passport.ps.  There's also more
about this in the SSN FAQ.




Mark
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