From: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 01:29:29 +0800
To: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Subject: Re: Nature of Anarchy/ Anarchy of Nature
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On Sun, 18 May 1997, William H. Geiger III wrote:

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> In <v03007802afa54d564265@[10.0.2.15]>, on 05/18/97 at 06:25 PM,
>    Steve Schear <azur@netcom.com> said:
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> >At 5:52 PM -0500 5/18/97, William H. Geiger III wrote:
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> >>In <199705182225.PAA03246@fat.doobie.com>, on 05/18/97 at 04:25 PM,
> >>   nobody@huge.cajones.com (Huge Cajones Remailer) said:
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> >>[New Age Snip]
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> >>>I believe this was a major quantum leap in the history of  human  thought
> >>>and concioussness. A giant step in the right direction of our  true
> >>>divinity but it was sorely flawed; By the concept of property  rights.
> >>>This is where the founding fathers eogos got in the way.
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> >>>The liberation movements of the last century have been based on the  same
> >>>concept of unalienable rights and have attempted to fine tune  the
> >>>document for  a more equitable distribution of planet power to  correct
> >>>the flaw.
> >>
> >><sigh> There is a fundamental fact of politics/economics that a socialist
> >>economy and a democratic political structure can not co-exsist.
> >>
> >>The concept of property rights is not a flaw but the foundation on which
> >>the constitution and this country is built on. Without the ability to
> >>controll ones own property all other rights fall by the wayside.

> >>
> >>I sugest reading "The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith for a better
> >>understanding of Capitalism and why it is the *only* economic model that
> >>works for a free society.
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> >Even better, "The Road to Surfdom," F.A. Hayek, totally debunks the basis
> >of a planned economy and how the loss of property ownership and economic
> >freedom leads directly and inevitably to totalitarianism.
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> Yes, very good read. Have you read any of his other works?
> 
> I thought that Smith was a good start as it was his economic philosophy
> that guided our founding fathers.
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> I find it rather depressing that too few people understand the
> relationships between economics & politics and how they affect the freedom
> of the individule. 
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Or more succinctly put:

"Without private property there can be no privacy"

                   -anonymous
                   (how appropriate - anonymous quotes on cypherpunks)

Jim Burnes