1997-06-13 - “Bozos Against Flag Burning”

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
To: “RS” <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Message Hash: b023b769c13a3a3e04b0d3db5823b42cf0bff9977bc15a817575d6d85e229a6c
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UTC Datetime: 1997-06-13 06:09:19 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:09:19 +0800

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:09:19 +0800
To: "RS" <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: "Bozos Against Flag Burning"
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At 10:20 PM -0700 6/12/97, RS wrote:
>When it comes down to flag burning, It really bothers me that we allow our
>symbol of freedom to be burned.  It's more than a flag and a right.  It's a
>symbol of the freedom we have.  To allow someone to publicly burn a flag is
>essentially displaying our freedom being burned.
>Bush was a veteran, and Clinton was not.  I take it the ones who are
>writing on this subject about how we should have the "freedom" to burn the
>flag have never served in the military or for our country.
>Being a veteran myself, I find it very distateful to allow anyone on our
>soil to be allowed to "BURN" our symbol of freedom.  Think about the flag
>for a moment and what it really stands for.  Does it not stand for freedom
>and liberty?
>Sorry, I just had to let this out.  I stand behind Bush on this one.  Don't
>burn the flag unless you would like to live under another flag!

You ought to get off this list, then, because you'll surely find our
anarchist, anti-government, tax-evading ideas alien to you.

"Against the law" is not just a nicety of phrasing: it means someone who
"insults a symbol" goes to jail. Hardly consistent with a free society is

As for Bush being a veteran and Clinton not being a veteran, what the hell
does this have to do with their political positions? Did you vote for
George McGovern in 1972 because he was a veteran (a bomber pilot, in fact)
while Richard Nixon was a guy who finagled his way out of joining the

Jeeze, the bozos who wash up on our list. Where's Bell when we really need him?

--Tim May

There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws.
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