From: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:16:07 +0800
To: lucifer Anonymous Remailer <lucifer@dhp.com>
Subject: Re: Dimitri McVeigh
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>   Dimitri has long pushed the envelope of censorship and challenged
> those who don't like it to do something about it.
>   The reason that Hallam-Baker is able to post thinly veiled "Dimitri
> is a cocksucker!" messages to the list is because Dimitri refused to
> lay down and quit when he was forcibly censored for his "Gilmore is
> a cocksucker!" messages. If the censorship coupe d'etat had succeded,
> then Hallam-Baker's post would have been trashed into the flames list.

Yes, Hallam-Baker seems unable to handle a killfile.

>   The bottom line is that Hallam-Baker's demeaning of Dimitri without
> facing censorship on this list and on USENET is partly the result of
> the efforts of Dimitri, himself, to fight censorship.
>   This is not surprising, since, after all, Dimitri is a cypherpunk.
> (Despite all of his claims to the contrary.)

I think the "John Gilmore is a cocksucker", along with the 
OBModeratorFodder material played a strong part in bringing about an 
uncensored list, it is often necessary to bring the censorous 
motherfuckers out into the open, there is no better way to do this than 
posting rants they do not like, for a good example of this technique see 
Dr. Grubor.
I should also note than not all Dimitri posts is one-line rants, not now 
anyway ;-)...

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