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1997-07-16 - Re: CCTV Cameras in Britain

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From: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Message Hash: 7511cc568554d5768ea084a646e9084b2ea7979d44334d86e6c6e5a8f27eddb9
Message ID: <19970715183341.01502@bywater.songbird.com>
Reply To: <199707152143.RAA22086@yakko.cs.wmich.edu>
UTC Datetime: 1997-07-16 01:44:26 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:44:26 +0800

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From: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:44:26 +0800
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: Re: CCTV Cameras in Britain
In-Reply-To: <199707152143.RAA22086@yakko.cs.wmich.edu>
Message-ID: <19970715183341.01502@bywater.songbird.com>
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On Tue, Jul 15, 1997 at 05:43:59PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
[.deleted.]
> 
> I wouldn't.  Its the state's duty to protect my liberties and if they can't
> or won't the obligation falls on me.
>
> The product of liberty and security is a constant.

This is obviously false.  Zero liberty and zero security is a quite
possible situation (laying strapped to the table, waiting for your 
lethal injection, for example), as is some liberty and some security (the 
normal situation).

Of course, in this context "liberty" is a religious word, with little 
semantic content.

-- 
Kent Crispin				"No reason to get excited",
kent@songbird.com			the thief he kindly spoke...
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