From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
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Raw Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:48:24 +0800
From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:48:24 +0800
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: White House "kinder, gentler"-CDA/censor empowerment meeting (fwd)
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> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
> Subject: White House "kinder, gentler"-CDA/censor empowerment meeting
> Below we see an excellent example of the naivete inherent in
> Net-libertarian and cypherpunk writing.
> Obviously the writer does not understand the complexities and challenges
> of Washington politics ... a process that results in the compromises
> so vital in a healthy democracy.
I would like to see your proof that a healthy democracy requires compromise.
This is truly the pot calling the kettle black in regards to mis-understanding
the fundamental dynamics of 'healthy' democracies.
> I can only conclude that because Mr. Finkelstein does not live inside the
> Beltway, we cannot expect him to realize that it is always necessary to
> remain players in the game -- even if it means giving up fundamental
> liberties in the process.
Declan, you are truly an idiot if you believe that you can obtain any sort
of democracy, let along a healthy one, by giving up fundamental liberties.
With friends like you we don't need enemies, we don't have to worry about
them taking anything you are more than willing to give it away.
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