From: Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 07:31:03 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Picketing With Packets
In-Reply-To: <uLuJBe4w165w@bwalk.dm.com>
Message-ID: <19970816232134.20321.qmail@zipcon.net>
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dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) writes:

 > In all fairness, in addition to Stanford Wallace, there are
 > several other spammers sending out junk e-mail. If you
 > completely eliminate Stanford and his company, you will
 > STILL get junk e-mail.

If Mr. Spamford were terminated with extreme prejudice, my junk
email would be reduced to managable levels.

 > Perhaps this will spark another round of a cypherpunk
 > discussion of technical solutions to junk e-mail...

I'm tempted to go some sort of postage route myself, but I
occasionally get mail from newbies who have never written me
before, and who occasionally have something interesting to say.

 > I placed myself on a zillion "remove" lists.  Now I no
 > longer get any junk e-mail of interest (which I did on rare
 > occasions), but still get at least once a day an MMF and/or
 > an ad for a sex site.

 > I'll tell you what I did, if anyone cares to spend a little
 > time emulating what I did.

 > Visit these two sites and jump through the loops:

It is not *I* who should do the hoop-jumping in order to keep my
mailbox free of garbage.

 > Send an e-mail with a "remove" in the subject to the
 > following collection of addresses. I keep track of when I
 > send in a semi-automatic ";remove" request. Quite a few of
 > them keep on sending junk e-mail despite the remove
 > requests. Some may add you to their junk mail list when they
 > get your remove request if you're not on it already.

Again, I will forward *ALL* my email to /dev/null before I kowtow
before some humongous list of offenders.

[Very Long List Snipped]

Additionally, a lot of mail is of the "This is the only mailing
you will receive from us" variety.  Getting 50 a day of those can
be royally annoying as well.

I am tempted to launch a few thousand packets in the direction of
any IP which sends me unwanted material trying to sell me
something.  If everyone did this, spamming machines would be
buried in a packet snowstorm within a few minutes of starting
operations.

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     Mike Duvos         $    PGP 2.6 Public Key available     $
     enoch@zipcon.com   $    via Finger                       $
         {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}