From: Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net>
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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Raw Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:11:05 +0800
From: Mike Duvos <enoch@zipcon.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:11:05 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Bell, etc
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Tim "What you mean *WE*, white man" May writes:
> Whom are the "we" in this "We really need to put something
> together..."?
> I certainly don't plan to be part of the "we," and this
> sounds perilously close to the notion that members of this
> mailing list are part of some sort of collective entity,
> with goals, charters, action plans, officers, oh my.
Horrors.
> As for info on Jim Bell, the article by Declan is widely
> available, and is quite informative. As for elaborating it
> further, or including more boilerplate, this seems
> pointless. Anyone knew to the story can read Declan's
> article. Anyone seeking even more information presumably
> knows how to use search engines and should be able to find
> the various essays and articles directly.
Well, as I have often said, "There is no such thing as objective
market-driven journalism." As much as I admire Declan's
expository skills, we both know he isn't going to deliberately
bite the hand that is holding his paycheck.
> Sounds good to me. Let us know when you've finished it.
> (If I sound testy, sorry. It's just that it's been a while
> since I've heard this "we should get together and so
> suchandsuch" stuff. The notion that Cypherpunks are some
> sort of collective is not real useful. Nor is building a
> page devoted to Bell's "one trick pony" terribly
> interesting. Yes, people are clueless and ask "Who is Jim
> Bell?"
Jim Bell is an example of an individual screwed by the government
using overly vague statues for alleged crimes which amounted to
little more than a few high school type pranks.
He took names of assholes who harrassed him, gave a made-up
number to a few people, and made the IRS doormat smell bad. How
much, if any taxes, were evaded as a result of one of these
charges isn't even an issue.
> So? Tell them to use search engines; a HotBot search on
> "James Dalton Bell" just returned 1078 matches, several of
> them on the first page directly applicable. Obviously
> various Boolean searches on AP, Bell, IRS, etc. would act in
> the predictable way.)
It is in the collective interests of Crypto-Anarchists that
information depicting the government's true colors should be
available in a form which can be accessed by even the terminally
innumerate. This means a hyperlink with the words "Jim Bell" on
it, in a frequently browsed location.
--
Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $
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{Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}
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