1997-09-10 - Re: House National Security committee guts SAFE, worse than no b

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From: Lizard <lizard@dnai.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:04:57 +0800
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Subject: Re: House National Security committee guts SAFE, worse than no b
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At 11:00 PM 9/9/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>Michael, you once again fail to note the important political issues here. 
>Sometimes civil liberties, freedom, and constitutional rights must be
>ignored in favor of pragmatism. It is important at all costs to remain a
>player in the game. 
>
No, it isn't. You end up being more concerned with being in the game than
with achieving your goals. Sometimes, you have to kick the board over.

I think it is more important to make the laws unenforceable (and make such
workarounds useful to the average netizen), than it is to try to keep the
government from passing laws. The work of people like Jim Ray and Phillip
Baker is crucial here.

The government is unlikely to pass laws to limit its own authority, on any
issue -- even those who might not want to use a particular power would
still want to keep it around 'just in case'. 

We cannot count on government to protect our freedoms. Therefore, we must
make it irrelevant to the exercise of those freedoms.

>Instead of opposing bad crypto legislation, we should instead work inside
>the process, to gain a seat at the table. That is why it is highly
>significant that both Commerce and FBI want to rid us of our freedom but
>would do it in subtly different ways. 

Not really, know. It's unlikely that a "Let's you and him fight" strategy
would prove effective, since this isn't just an interdepartmental turf
squabble. They will strip our freedoms first, and argue over who gets the
thumbscrews second.






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