1997-09-24 - Re: Emphasizing a point by Donald Eastlake re key recovery

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From: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>
To: Ross Anderson <Ross.Anderson@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Message Hash: 2ca5ae36cb68cf88dce6f3a66423a102b9ec9d491af6a1792b1af08ce61356f3
Message ID: <3.0.3.32.19970924101545.032be240@cybercash.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-09-24 17:51:47 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:51:47 +0800

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From: Carl Ellison <cme@cybercash.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:51:47 +0800
To: Ross Anderson <Ross.Anderson@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Emphasizing a point by Donald Eastlake re key recovery
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970924101545.032be240@cybercash.com>
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At 09:34 AM 9/23/97 +0100, Ross Anderson wrote:
>There is also the point that the vast majority of encryption keys are
>actually used for authentication rather than confidentiality. The keys
>that encrypt your bank card PIN en route from the ATM to the bank, the
>keys in your satellite TV decoder, the keys in your gas meter and your
>postal meter - in fact the majority of all DES keys in use - are about
>authentication. In theory most of them could be replaced by digital 
>signature mechanisms but given the size of the installed base, it 
>won't happen anytime soon.

For what it's worth, I once got an opinion from NSA's export control office 
that I could use any kind of crypto I wanted (e.g., even triple-DES) if all 
I'm doing is protecting a channel carrying a password (like the PIN), 
because that's an authentication function and therefore to be encouraged.  I 
didn't get this in writing, however, so I'd have to go for it again.

 - Carl

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