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From: jf_avon@citenet.net
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 09:31:10 +0800
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: Re: Real issue of crypto controls: security or taxation loss?
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On 13 Sep 97 at 21:02, Fred Hapgood wrote:
>
> >I think that *this* debate should be injected in the population and
> >the *bogus* "national security" debate should be dismissed as,
> >just that : bogus.
>
> Never underestimate how weirded out people can get about "security".
> You don't know about this, living in Canada, but nobody in America can
> use a mailbox to mail a package now, just because one guy mailed a few
> bombs.
FUD. There is quite a difference between what Joe and Jane Average
are and what the Lie-Box with 500 channels and most Lie-Leaflets will
tell you. Sorry for my idealism, but I still believe that there is a
quantum of Reason in the population. But you may be right here.
> What are you saying here? That we should be arguing that encryption
> should be permitted because it will allow people to avoid paying
> taxes?
Duhhh, duhhhh, fucking duhhhh...
Why do you make me spend my resources (time, efforts) on having me
defend myself on something I never said? Just read my fucking text
and this *is* what I said. Go read Hettinga's rants on his web site
about how e-$ will impose itself and why and consider that I agree
with him on it.
[and here, I disregard the less-than-illuminated contradiction in
terms]
And if you want to get emotionnal :-) , just as I also agreed and
defended Jim Bell's opinion that AP was
"not-possible-to-prevent-from-happening", [unless they ban
crypto, for legitimate e-$ scheme need authorities's tolerance of
crypto] and backed my opinion with rational arguments. Thank you very
much.
Just like anybody describing and saying that the Ebola virus is
mortal doesn't mean one loves to kill...
So, DUHHHH squared.
Another time-wasting, word-twisting, fanatic-attracting,
emotional-debate-inducing idiocy like that and [not a menace but
simply a description of my quality-of-life enhancing measures] I
will have one of my file past the terabyte mark...
Ciao
jfa
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