From: Lizard <lizard@dnai.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 02:37:10 +0800
To: Glenn Hauman <declan@well.com>
Subject: Re: The problem of playing politics with our constitutional   rights
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At 11:14 AM 9/12/97 -0400, Glenn Hauman wrote:
>At 1:38 AM -0400 9/12/97, Lizard wrote:
>
>><SETH>And here we see more of the cult's recruitment. Note how he 
always
>>talks about the *GOVERNMENT* and the *IRS*. Why doesn't he talk 
about Pepsi
>>or GM wanting the keys to your house? More of this 'government bad,
>>business good' propaganda we've all grown so sick and tired of, 
being
>>shoved down our throats. Small wonder this list has gone to hell!" 
</SETH>
>
>Say what? Do you know how much companies pay for information about 
you as a
>member of a demographic? (Think Equifax, Nielsen, or any mailing 
list
>company.)
>
>Corporations want as much info on you as possible-- luckily, the 
only
>reason they want it is to sell you stuff, not to arrest you.

Sure...that's where the whole privacy debate comes in. Basic point 
is, if I take steps to hide that information from them, they can't 
shoot me. No company, to my knowledge, is claiming a *right* to know 
things about me -- they may demand to know things about me as their 
half of a contract, but I'm free to refuse, or falsify. And I often 
do.

I wonder if the government could 'sell' GAK to liberals, at least the 
dumber ones (not anyone on this list), by saying, "And we'll use it 
to make sure that information collected about you on the web isn't 
used improperly!" (I mean, if businesses encrypt their internal 
communications unbreakably, things like civil rights suits and the 
Pinto 'smoking gun' will be harder to prove as well. )
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