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From: ichudov@Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 08:35:08 +0800
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: A helluva way to run a country, er, a world (fwd)
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Prof. Sternlight, do you admit that you were wrong?
Please share your thoughts with cypherpunks@algebra.com
Thank you.
igor
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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:41:38 -0700
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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
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At 7:54 AM -0700 9/6/97, Syniker@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 97-09-06 07:15:18 EDT, vznuri@netcom.com (Vladimir Z.
>Nuri) writes:
>
><< maybe I'm not following closely enough, but I haven't seen a *single*
> reference. that's really eerie. can't we get a *single*
> senator to bring up that issue? >>
>
>me neither... it's fucking mind-boggling....
>and where's all the 'censorship' people????
>it's like -- no one can make the 'connection' ....
>the CDA and FCA lists are dead ... not a word ...
>how can we all have wet powder at the same time?
I didn't see Detweiler's original message ('til just now), but I think this
is wrong, the "I haven't seen a *single* reference" (to the
constitutionality of mandatory key escrow).
In some of the accounts of the Freeh-Feinstein-etc. colloquy, there were
mentions that mandatory key escrow probably would be desirable, but
probably not be possible. (I took this to mean they, including Freeh,
recognized it would be unconstitutional).
Of course, then the draft text of the GAK bill floated by the next day, and
it of course contained no references to constitutionality (not
surprisingly, as draft bills are not self-analyses).
Despite my cynicism, I'd expect the courts to issue an immediate stay on
enforcement on such a law, as happened with the CDA. With probably an
expedited hearing before the Supreme Court. As so many have noted, it seems
to be a slam dunk infringement on the right to speak freely and in whatever
language one wishes. And some 4th and 5th and other involvements.
It may be a stalking horse. A threat. Designed to force a compromise. "If
you don't pass McCain-Kerrey, this is what you'll get."
A helluva way to run a country, er, a world.
But look on the bright side: the militias and other patriot groups are
getting a huge bounce out of this. Stay far away from the nests of vipers.
Jefferson's wisdom that we need a revolution every generation or so is
apt...though it's been about 180 years too long.
Now even those, like Sternlight, who claimed the government would never
require key escrow, have to admit we were right all along.
--Tim May
There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws.
Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!"
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- Igor.
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