1997-10-24 - Re: CMR versus GAK? (fwd) > Right to monitor

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
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UTC Datetime: 1997-10-24 13:36:31 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:36:31 +0800

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:36:31 +0800
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: Re: CMR versus GAK? (fwd) > Right to monitor
Message-ID: <199710241400.JAA23475@einstein.ssz.com>
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> From: lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke)
> Subject: Re: CMR versus GAK?
> Date: 24 Oct 1997 13:01:12 GMT

> * William H. Geiger III wrote:
> >documents. This is the distinction between corporate access to plain text
> >and GAK. The company *owns* the documents. They have a right to read them
> >any time they want. If you don't want your *private* corrospondance to be
> 
> The company *owns* all telephon calls mad from an to there office. So they
> have a right to wiretrap and record all phone calls you does from the
> company. If you don't want your *private* corrospondance be wiretraped and
> recorded, prevent every phone call in private issues from the company.
> Forbit your insurance agency to call you in the company, deny the school
> attended by your children to phone you at work, if your childen is ill, ...

It occurs to me that this entire question is really of much larger social
import:

 -  do babysitters in your home have an inherent right to not be monitored
    in case they harm the child?

 -  do operators of vehicles on public roads have an inherent right to
    privacy about the vehicle?

 -  do businesses have the right to monitor the uses that their systems
    are put to?

 -  do public officials have an inherent right to privacy about their
    actions related to their office?

etc. ad nausium...

These various issues can be broken down into two simple questions that
once answered genericaly can be applied to the specific cases.

The bottem line is:

Does the owner of a resource have an inherent right to control that
resource and if so what are the boundaries?

Does the user of a resource have rights outside the purvue of the owner
of that resource and if so what are the boundaries?


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