From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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Message ID: <3.0.3.32.19971117175315.006a2520@popd.netcruiser>
Reply To: <0738cb51233c79e1c67184be72abdb44@anon.efga.org>
UTC Datetime: 1997-11-18 03:08:36 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:08:36 +0800
From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:08:36 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Databasix conspiracy theories
In-Reply-To: <0738cb51233c79e1c67184be72abdb44@anon.efga.org>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971117175315.006a2520@popd.netcruiser>
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At 03:24 PM 11/17/97 -0500, Anonymous wrote:
>Any kid with a throwaway Netcruiser account and a copy of Netscape or some
>other mailer that allows you to set an arbitrary From: address on outgoing
>SMTP mail can easily "forge" a return address, and certainly do a more
>convincing job than you could ever hope to do by pasting headers through a
>remailer. I'll bet if that happened, people like Mr. Burnore would not be
>so quick to demand that Netcom be shut down if it can't put a stop to this.
Woodwose (who appears to have borrowed my last name for his "True Name")
appears to have done a variation of this--except that if there are
complaints about messages being sent from woodwose@mailexcite.com, I doubt
anything will happen other than the woodwose account at mailexcite.com
being closed. Hence, his "disposable remailer" claim. Any shmuck can log
on and input a fake name, address, and demographic data to create a new
account at hotmail, mailexcite, or juno. In this way, as existing
remailers are harassed out of existence, new ones can be created on a daily
or hourly basis. It would probably be interesting to find out how much
info these outfits collect (cookies, etc.) that could be definitively
linked to a True Name.
Jonathan Wienke
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-- Jonathan Wienke
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