From: "Jonathan Wienke" <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 06:12:13 +0800
To: "Brad Dolan" <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net>
Subject: Re: How to spot a hate group [was Re: Update On Jim Bell]
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From: Brad Dolan <bdolan@usit.net>
[snip]
>Professor Joyce Malcolm of Bentley College in Massachusetts
>was the chair of the panel on which I sat.  She showed me
>something quite disturbing from another presentation that
>she had attended.  The paper attempted to determine if the
>Montana Militia could be considered a "hate group" or
>not.  Among the methods by which they determined this was
>examination of the phrases and concerned in Montana Militia
>literature.  Among the phrases or subjects that would
>classify a group as a "hate group" were:
>
>1. Discussion of the Bill of Rights, especially the
>Second Amendment.
>
>2. Discussion of military oppression, in the U.S. or
>elsewhere.
>
>3. Discussion of the Framers of our government.
>
>She showed me a copy of the criteria used by the criminologists
>in question, and these were among the criteria.  I guess
>the ACLU and Amnesty International are hate groups also.
>Very disturbing.

No wonder the EPA and every other bureaucrat is stocking up on weaponry of
all kinds...Almost everyone in America is an anti-government extremist hate
group member.  Here is some "hate speech" from a Dead White Guy(tm) to ponder:

"They tell us we are weak--unable to cope with so formidable an
adversary.  But when shall we be stronger?  Will it be next week, or the
next year?  Will it be when we are totally disarmed?  Shall we acquire the
means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging
the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies have bound us hand and
foot?  We are not weak if we make a proper use of the means which the God
of nature has placed in our power.  Millions of people armed in the hold
cause of Liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are
invincible.  Besides, we shall not fight our battles alone.  There is a
just God who presides over the destinies of nations, who will raise up
friends to fight our battles for us.  The battle, is not to the strong
alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.  Many cry 'Peace,
peace'--but there is no peace.  The war is actually begun!  Why stand we
here idle?  Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the
price of chains and slavery?  Forbid it Almighty God!  I know not what
course others may take; but as for me, give me Liberty or give me death!"
 -- Patrick Henry

Jonathan Wienke

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"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that
feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget
that ye were our countrymen."
-- Samuel Adams

"Stupidity is the one arena of human achievement where most people
fulfill their potential."
 -- Jonathan Wienke

Never sign a contract that contains the phrase "first-born child."
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

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