From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:00:33 +0800
To: Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org>
Subject: Re: Report on UN conference on Internet and racism
In-Reply-To: <532d5c8e06a123ce2c6bc69646495202@anon.efga.org>
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In <532d5c8e06a123ce2c6bc69646495202@anon.efga.org>, on 11/19/97 
   at 07:12 PM, Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> said:

>At 10:27 PM 11/18/97 -0600, Mr. Geiger wrote:
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>>In <3.0.16.19971118231927.0dc71f6e@pop.mindspring.com>, on 11/18/97 
>>   at 11:34 PM, Mikhael Frieden <mikhaelf@mindspring.com> said:
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>>>At 06:53 PM 11/18/97 -0600, William H. Geiger III wrote:
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>>>>I think that there is plenty of case law of extending constutional
>>>>protections to non-citizens. One that comes to mind were the rulings
>>>>against California inwhich the courts ruled the they were obligated to
>>>>provide schooling and social services to illegal aliens (a really fucked
>>>>rulling IMNSHO but if some good can come out of it no sense not making use
>>>>of it).
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>>>        In a much more fundamental sense, if they were not given
>>>constitutional protections they really could be rounded up and bussed
>>>across the border. 
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>>And this would be a BadThing(TM)??
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>I am quite confused, I thought this was the cypherpunk list, i.e. national borders are just speed bumps, anarchy, all that stuff? Has there been some change in philosophy where this is now the nationalistic statist list? Put the gestapo at the borders to kill anyone trying to sneak in? Bus those that don't belong here home?

>Oooooh I now understand, you just hate, your hate for the government has now spilt over to where you hate citizen units that weren't born in this country. I think you, Mr. Geiger, would find a welcome if you submitted your resume to the Border Patrol, just think you could wear a nice spiffy uniform, and some jackboots, and carry a gun; don't drool when you get accepted.

>Just like all the psuedo "freedom fighters" in the militias that Tim is so hyped on, just different thugs that want to control other people's lifes to conform to their belief systems.

ad hominem (adj): marked by an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made.

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