1997-11-19 - Re: Flight 007 and our Civil Liberties

Header Data

From: Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>
To: Tim May <cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Message Hash: d6395e6c6430906f1b9139a9abb7e4c0dd579756508c3b70e0e68131dbf3dfaa
Message ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118231158.00712378@popd.ix.netcom.com>
Reply To: <v03102802b09795d84b18@[207.167.93.63]>
UTC Datetime: 1997-11-19 07:13:08 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:13:08 +0800

Raw message

From: Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:13:08 +0800
To: Tim May <cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Subject: Re: Flight 007 and our Civil Liberties
In-Reply-To: <v03102802b09795d84b18@[207.167.93.63]>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118231158.00712378@popd.ix.netcom.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain



At 12:11 PM 11/18/1997 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>The FBI has just completed a long press conference in which it reported its
>"no terrorist activity suspected" conclusions. Having watched most of it,
>and having seen the CIA animation shown at the press conference, I agree
>with their conclusions.
...
>However, now that the Flight 007 explosion has been ruled a non-terrorist
>event, will we get our freedoms back?

Flight 800, actually.....
KAL007 was the Korean plane shot down by Russians.

>So, these were the two big events which stimulated the FAA, under higher
>orders, to require mandatory ID of all travelling passengers. And more
>multimillion dollar sniffers to be installed in airports.

Is that multi-million-dollar explosive-sniffers,
or have they developed dollar-sniffers to support the War On Cash :-)

One of the parts that's irked me most about this (as distinct from
outrage at the loss of civil liberties) is that the thugs won't even
come out and say "The Government Requires You To Have Papers To Travel",
since they can't do that, at least without PR problems.
Instead they bully the airlines into requiring more obedience to 
avoid arbitrary $10,000 FUD penalties than a direct law could require.
And the airline employees keep telling me "it's always been this way"
a couple of weeks after each change of the rules.

				Thanks! 
					Bill
Bill Stewart, stewarts@ix.netcom.com
Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF  3C85 B884 0ABE 4639






Thread