From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:15:13 +0800
To: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Pasting in From:
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At 12:03 PM 12/1/97 -0800, stewarts@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>Besides Usenet, other popular tactics for retribution are
>sending death threats to politicians, sending child pornography
>to mailing lists, forging messages _from_ politicians, etc.
>Disclaimer/warning headers help, but can't stop it all.
>
>At 10:07 AM 12/01/1997 -0500, Andy Dustman wrote:
>>Two basic points also about "forgeries". First, you can forge headers
>>pretty easily without any programs other than telnet. Second, if this
>
>This was before Gary Burnore's attacks on the remailer networks,
>but it's also an obvious tactic for either flamers or Feds to use
>for getting remailers shut down.  If somebody forges a Usenet posting
>with telnet, it's not _your_ problem (usually).  If they use your
remailer,
>it is your problem.  And if they get remailers closed down a lot,
>it's all of our problems.
>
>>2) Whenever a From: line is pasted, a disclaimer will be inserted at the
>>top of the body, stating that the original sender has set the From: line,
>>and that the identification cannot be verified. The fact that it is up at
>>the top of the body should mean people should actually see it before
>>reacting.
>
>It's worth also repeating it at the bottom.  Putting it in the headers
>is invisible with most newsreaders, though.
>
>By the way, one technical risk with From:-pasting is that you need to
>parse or substitute special characters including parens and anglebrackets.
>Otherwise it's easy for people to paste in syntactically incorrect
headers,
>which really annoy some gateways and mail clients - nested parens are
>a particular problem.
>
>Basically, I think you're getting yourself in for excitement
>and adventure and really wild stuff by supporting this :-)

Sounds like a good reason for remailers to use throwaway email accounts at
Juno, MailExcite, Yahoo, etc. as their exit points.  Wasn't somebody
working on this?
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