1997-12-25 - Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment

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From: lord_buttmonkey@juno.com (Matthew L Bennett)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Message ID: <19971224.202211.12886.0.Lord_Buttmonkey@juno.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-12-25 01:32:24 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 09:32:24 +0800

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From: lord_buttmonkey@juno.com (Matthew L Bennett)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 09:32:24 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
Message-ID: <19971224.202211.12886.0.Lord_Buttmonkey@juno.com>
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>> You aren't being oppressed the other party doesn't want to interact
>> with you, unless that party is government providing base services to 
>> (e.g. police/courts/border protection).
>Actually, you can be.


>> You *are* being oppressed if mutually consensual behavior is 
>> with by
>> others including the State.
>> You *are* being oppressed if you are coerced into a relationship you 
>> want.
>You are not being coerced into anything.  If you don't want to serve
>food to Blacks, don't open a restaurant.  It's your choice.

Umm, no, freedom doesn't work like that.  If you open a *private*
establishment, you have the right, according to the constitution, to deny
*anyone* the right to enter or eat in your restraunt.  However, if you
were banned from using the government postal service for being Jewish,
then yes, you are being oppressed.

>By the way, you are also not allowed to dump toxic waste in your own
>backyard.  Are you being oppressed?

Depends.  Does it affect your neighbors?  If so, then no.  If not, then

>> An employer-employee relationship is like a marriage or any other 
>> between adults -mutually consensual.
>In a fantasy world, it is mutually consensual.  It the real world, it 
>seldom mutual.

Tough shit.

If you don't like your job, no one's forcing you to stay.  Just leave it
and get another one.