From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:51:05 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving and the Impending Murder of Usenet
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Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
> > So why doesn't he? For the same reason I often eat out even though I'm a
> > pretty good cook - I know how to do it, but my time can be better spent
> > doing something creative. Re-coding exploits for well-known holes, for
> > which a dozen explots already exists, is not creative.
>
> Amen.

Russ hees and haws; just a couple of days ago he was whining how we shouldn't
publish exploits because users should be forced to write their own exploits.

> > Russ clearly believes in "security by obscurity", so heinvents bogus
> > arguments to waste everyone's time.
>
> Russ does?  There are some forms of "security via obscurity" that actually
> work or which have some benefit (hell, password systems are just security
> via obscurity at their core), but no, I don't believe in it as a general
> principle.

That's from the same bootlixcking Cabal lackey who was whining and begging
me not to release my cancelbot.

[rfc 1036 rewrite]
> > (The main purpose of the rewrite, by the way, is to incorporate some
> > "anti-spam" language, and to remove the embarassing prohibition against
> > forged cancels.)
>
> Actually, the main purpose looks more to be to roll in a bunch of headers
> that had been in informal use, clarify a bunch of the language, resolve
> differences between the mail and news formats, and so forth.  Brad's
> pushing hard for a variety of authentication measures, including an
> authenticated Path header, and X-Auth will likely be rolled in in some
> form.

Bullshit. I'm on the list, I see the traffic, and all the whining about
"spam" coming from the wannabe content censors.

> > One Good Thing that might come out of masive attacks is the switch to
> > IPv6.
>
> Maybe.  That'll be a really hard one to get going.

But it would actually make the net better in many ways.

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