From: Jonathan Wienke <JonWienk@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 08:46:18 +0800
To: Tim May <shamrock@cypherpunks.to>
Subject: Re: Freemen and Serfs
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At 11:36 AM 11/30/97 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>(I was chatting with a guy yesterday about a Steyr SSG sniper rifle I've
>had my eyes on. With a Kahles scope and match grade ammo, it's been shown
>to produce 9-inch groups at 1000 yards...just the thing for reaching out
>and touching someone. It turned out, after we'd talked for a while that
>he's with the SWAT team for one of the local major counties. He
understands
>full well that many of those he may be called to go up against are
>equipping themselves with the most advanced countersniping weaponry
>available to anyone. )

What round does this thing fire?  .223 Rem, .270 Win, .30-06, or .22LR
(Just kidding!)?
BTW, what kind of groups can I expect to get from a MAK-90?

>As Lucky and others have noted, if the sentence for drug- or gun-dealing
is
>death, as it is in more and more countries (when bribery fails, of
course),
>then law enforcement will increasingly lead to Waco-type
>standoffs...military firefights.

Sounds like "If I'm dead anyway, I might as well take as many as I can with
me."  God help us if we ever come to that, because it would be ugly.

>If this be war, unleash the dogs of war, or make the most of it, or
however
>that line goes.

"If this be treason, let us make the most of it." -- Patrick Henry
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"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
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