From: David Honig <honig@otc.net>
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 03:26:05 +0800
To: Colin Rafferty <fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu
Subject: Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
In-Reply-To: <"William H. Geiger III"'s message of "Tue, 23 Dec 97 11:31:35 -0600">
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At 12:55 PM 12/23/97 -0500, Colin Rafferty wrote:
>William H Geiger writes:
>> In <ocryb1c2i2u.fsf@ml.com>, on 12/23/97 at 10:30 AM, Colin Rafferty
<craffert@ml.com> said:
>>> Paul Bradley writes:
>
>>>> Should the government be able to take action against me because I fire 
>>>> someone for being jewish/black/homosexual???
>
>>> Welcome to the 20th Century, moron.
>
>> Really amazing how many so-called "freedom fighters" become STATIST if the
>> proper buttons are pushed.
>
>What are you talking about?
>
>Freedom of expression is not the same as freedom of oppression.


You aren't being oppressed the other party doesn't want to interact
with you, unless that party is government providing base services to all
(e.g. police/courts/border protection).

You *are* being oppressed if mutually consensual behavior is interfered
with by
others including the State.

You *are* being oppressed if you are coerced into a relationship you don't
want.

An employer-employee relationship is like a marriage or any other arrangement
between adults -mutually consensual.  Colin, do you consider
yourself oppressed when someone choses not to date you?  What about
a rejection by someone who takes out a public advertisement in the paper?

Freedom is only tested when it hurts.















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