1997-12-10 - Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Message Hash: aedf97be5d9a4fcb77744aaac6622934e61e63f54d3159aca1645d8b56412990
Message ID: <199712102253.QAA09939@einstein.ssz.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-12-10 22:43:41 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:43:41 +0800

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 06:43:41 +0800
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
Message-ID: <199712102253.QAA09939@einstein.ssz.com>
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> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:54:26 -0800
> From: Steve Schear <schear@lvdi.net>
> Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
> 
> At 3:43 PM +0000 12/9/1997, jonathon wrote:
> >On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Jim Choate wrote:
> >
> >> analogous situation you would need to use a *listed* phone number registered
> >> to anonymous in such a way that ANI displayed the number but any directory
> >> search resulted in anonymous w/ no address or other tracing info even for
> >> the phone company. To the best of my knowledge no phone company anywhere
> 
> Third party, anonymous, telephone services are available.  One in Las Vegas (at least it used to be) is Private Lines, which is an anonyous re-dialer using 900 number billing for payment.

Yeah, and the way it works is that some 3rd party buys a trunk from the
local RBOC and then sets up their PBX and then re-sells the lines. Here's
your test for them. Buy a line and have them list it in the RBOC directory
under 'anonymous'.

Not the same thing as going directly to the RBOC and having them list your
number under 'anonymous'. THAT is the litmus test for true anonymous
phone service *and* to make it equivalent to an anonymous remailer with
address persistance.


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