1997-12-09 - Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Message Hash: bc3645578fde1e1ed670215e998a660903ad1828c70882fd7466da92915deb44
Message ID: <199712090021.SAA02221@einstein.ssz.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-12-09 02:00:02 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:00:02 +0800

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:00:02 +0800
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom (fwd)
Message-ID: <199712090021.SAA02221@einstein.ssz.com>
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> Date: 8 Dec 1997 17:40:04 -0000
> From: Charlie Comsec <comsec@nym.alias.net>
> Subject: Re: Remailer Trivia / Re: Singapore & Freedom 

> I find it interesting that most of the people who refer to anonymous
> posters as "hiding behind" or "hiding behind the skirts of" something
> usually have unlisted telephone numbers when you try to do a search
> for them. <g>  I wonder why "hiding behind" an unlisted telephone number
> is considered acceptable but having an "unlisted" e-mail address is not
> considered acceptable?

> BTW, do you "hide behind" clothes when you walk on the street?  If so, why?
> Got something to hide?  Huh?  COWARD!!!! <g>

Public anonymity and having an unlisted phone number are not even the same
thing. An unlisted phone number is to reduce public exposure, anonymity is
to enhance public exposure and secure plausible deniability. To have an
analogous situation you would need to use a *listed* phone number registered
to anonymous in such a way that ANI displayed the number but any directory
search resulted in anonymous w/ no address or other tracing info even for
the phone company. To the best of my knowledge no phone company anywhere
will allow a customer to purchase service without identifying themselves to
the phone company. Please let me know if there is such a beast somewhere.

Generaly people wear clothes because it is convenient and required by social
mores and legal statute.

Put your money where you mouth is, send your bank acct. no. & PIN to the
list....come on, you can trust US.

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