1998-01-25 - attila & maureen on Bubba
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Clinton's Achilles' Heel
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well, this may finally do it for Clinton. if he was not so
stupid, he would pack out of white house in the middle of
the night, pick up his ill-gotten gains from Switzerland, or
wherever he has them stashed, and disappear into the night
--but, no, he might be forced to settle for Hillary-- which
would be revenge served up cold --they deserve each other. <p>
if the Asian crisis was not in full rage, and the US market
shaky with worry, we could afford to dump Clinton in the
dumpster --unfortunately, the spectacle of an American President
actually being successfully impeached will probably blow the
American and European markets right out of the water --and
the American economy with it --that just might be Clinton's
lasting legacy. he may deserve that footnote in history, but
the rest of us certainly do not. <p>
the NWO powers behind our "throne" may have needed a patsy
after their main man became unelectable, but they certainly
could have done better than bubba. you'd think they, or even
the Democratic power bosses who were against him in the
primaries would have done more evaluation of his bimbo
patrol mentality before they committed. <p>
even I was a little skeptical of the "allegations" in
the book "Primary Colors" (particularly to the Hillary
affair) and I have been more than a little skeptical of
the revelations of the "slave" courier/purveyors who have
surfaced, but there may be more fire than smoke. it was
certainly understandable why Joe Kline wrote the book as
"Anonymous" --he must have been a cypherpunk-- or at least
he should also have been using our anonymous remailers and
nontracable digital cash. <p>
God save us from Al Bore. he needed to have a Spiro Agnew
in his future, but Janet Reno saved his skin. he is a
decent sort, but I just can not handle the left-leaning
socialist son-of-a-bitch with his sanctimonious looks --he
needs a circuit riding preacher's floppy hat and a mule--
even if he did go to Harvard. <p>
on the other hand, if Al Bore goes down, and they can not
agree on a vice-president before Clinton either bales or is
smoked out, we would have Newt --that might have been
acceptable, except I think Newt either sold out or has been
intimidated. <p>
<b> <a href="mailto:attila@hun.org">
attila out for the count....
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January 25, 1998 <br>
NYTimes OpEd Columnist <br>
LIBERTIES / By MAUREEN DOWD <br><b>
Not Suitable for Children </b><p>
WASHINGTON -- There have been so many people rushing
to TV studios in this giddy and cataclysmic week to
talk about sex that networks are bringing makeup
artists out of retirement. <p>
The palaver about whether a 21-year-old White House
intern had a particular kind of sex with the President
has gotten so graphic that CNN's "Inside Politics"
Friday featured a warning that the segment might not
be suitable for young viewers. <p>
Let's review what we've learned so far. <p>
The President a liar? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
The President a philanderer? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
The President reckless in the satisfaction of his
appetites? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
The President would say anything and hurt anybody to
get out of a mess? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
Married men cheat? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
Married men cheat with young women? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
Married men who cheat with young women lie about it?
<i> Knew that. </i><p>
Hillary isn't throwing Bill's stuff out on the White
House lawn because she is as committed to their
repugnant arrangement as he is? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
The Clinton team -- those great feminists -- devising
ways to discredit women who come forward with reports
of Clinton peccadilloes? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
The President and his minions dissembling and
splitting hairs and playing semantic games and taking
forever to find the documents until our attention
wanders? <i> Knew that. </i><p>
The President has the moxie to pick out a dress for a
woman? <i> Didn't know that. </i><p>
In the delirium of the scandal, something remarkable
occurred. The President reportedly admitted, in a
deposition to Paula Jones's lawyers, that, oh, yeah,
by the way, he did have that affair with Gennifer
Flowers, which he so adamantly denied during the '92
campaign. <p>
I still remember James Carville ranting at reporters
for being low enough to pay any mind to her, calling
it cash for trash. <p>
How can he go back on TV and defend Mr. Clinton in
another sex scandal by once more trying to throw doubt
on another damning tape? <p>
At least Mr. Carville looked sheepish. Mr. Clinton's
famous rapid-response team seems to have bimbo-battle
fatigue. <p>
The tapes of Monica Lewinsky, now 24, seem believable,
not least because we heard it all before with Gennifer
Flowers. Helping to get her a new job, telling her to
say nothing went on if anyone asked. "Deny it," Mr.
Clinton told Ms. Flowers on tape. "That's all. I
mean, I expect them to come look into it and interview
you and everything. But I just think if everybody's
on record denying it, you've got no problem." The
whole modus operandi is right there. <p>
Also, why did Vernon Jordan become a patron to a lowly
Pentagon assistant if she was nothing special to the
President? <p>
The reality that looms before the American people is
not the impeachment of this President. It is the
annulment of this President. He has finally
determined his own place in history. He will be
remembered as the priapic President. The Oval Office
appears to be the bachelor pad of a married man who is
the Commander in Chief. Like all addicts, this one is
surrounded by enablers. <p>
Many Americans had accepted Mr. Clinton as a charming
rogue. But the portrait that may be pieced together
from the confessions of his willing and unwilling
women now looks utterly uncharming. Ms. Lewinsky's
nickname for him -- "the big creep" -- could stick. <p>
The Clinton doctrine may turn out to be nothing more
than a view of the relationship of oral sex -- or Oval
sex -- to adultery. CNN's Judy Woodruff reported that
religious scholars could find no biblical basis for
Mr. Clinton's purported claim to an Arkansas trooper
that the Bible says oral sex is not cheating. <p>
Ted Koppel actually began "Nightline" Thursday with
the following sentence: "It may . . . ultimately come
down to the question of whether oral sex does or does
not constitute adultery." <p>
Well, it sure isn't fidelity. <p>
When Mr. Clinton says now that he can't answer
questions about sex, lies and tapes because he must
hurry back to governance, people will want him to
hurry back to self-governance instead. <p>
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