From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:57:24 +0800
To: cypherpunks@ssz.com
Subject: Re: .50 ammo
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At 7:24 PM -0800 1/4/98, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
>Alan wrote:
>> At 04:50 PM 1/3/98 -0500, Brian B. Riley wrote:
>> The hardest part is getting the 50 cal ammo.  (He had his Federal firearms
>> license and was in the National Guard, so it was not too difficult for
>> him.) Getting AP and other special ammo would be doubly difficult.
>> (Non-specialty ammo could be reloaded as long as you could get molds and
>> primer caps.)
>>
>> I guess it depends on your military and/or black market connections.
>
>I have seen what appeared to be .50 ammo (probably not AP) in gun stores.

Armor-piercing ammo, the common kind, is just steel-core ammo. This is
readily available in most calibers, esp. military calibers. (A less common
kind is "KTW" handgun ammo, which is under some recent restrictions. And
even less common, and almost certainly unavailable to the proles, are
"sabot" rounds, some with tungsten cores.)

Importation of steel-core ammo is under various restrictions. Klinton
recently blocked import of a lot of foreign 7.62x39 steel core ammo, on
nebulous grounds that they represented a threat to the ruling elite and
their police bodyguards.

But it's still widely available. Check the gun shows.

(There is little need for this, for even folks like us. We are not likely
to want to disable fleeing vehicles, etc. And even conventional lead-core
rifle rounds will cut through body armor easily, which is all I care about.)

--Tim May

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