From: bill.stewart@pobox.com
To: Jim Choate <cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
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From: bill.stewart@pobox.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:14:37 +0800
To: Jim Choate <cypherpunks@ssz.com (Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer)
Subject: Re: What it means to be in America...
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This isn't really the list for that sort of thing.
While Rand is partially correct, the big industrialization of the US
came from the railroad business opening the West, which depended
on killing off the Indians who lived there - in large part by
wiping out the buffalo herds and starving the people,
and by using the US Army to kill them, and granting large
chunks of the land to the railroads, not only enough right of
way for tracks, but typically several miles on each side.
Here in Northern California, the Gold Rush was simplified by
killing off the local tribes in gold country.
And much of the early industrialization in New England was
cotton mills, processing slave-grown cotton.
At 11:31 AM 1/13/98 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
>
> America's abundance was created not by public sacrifices to "the
> common good," but by the productive genius of free men who pursued
> their own personal interests and the making of their own private
> fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America's
> industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages, and
> cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every
> scientific discovery or technological advance- and thus the whole
> country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of
> the way.
>
> - Ayn Rand
>
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>
> In the United States the majority undertakes to supply a multitude of
> ready-made opinions for the use of individuals, who are thus relieved
> from the necessity of forming opinions of their own.
>
> - Alexis de Tocqueville
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Thanks!
Bill
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